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I wish he would change topics.

Is that a dead horse? Lets beat it!!!

He’s right, but this is just about getting the jewish vote.

McCain has the same disdain for diplomacy as Bush does. He also sees the Iranian situation in the same simplistic terms as Bush. Bomb them until they love us and turn into a wonderful democracy automatically.

He talks about putting international pressure on a country that has existed independently for almost 20 years. Those few countries that might have some influence over Iran are on just as poor terms with the US themselves.

Confronting Iran militarily just makes the nuts there even more powerful. Like in America today, the leaders thrive on enemies to convince the people that there odd world view is just. Diplomatic talks with Iran can only weaken the unfortunate government there and strengthen the US and Israel’s position.

Jimmy Cater won a Nobel peace price for bringing Egypt and Israel together at the Camp David Accords:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_Accords

In contrast G.W.Bush destroyed Iraq and made it a terrorist threat and basically “led America into a strategic blunder of historic proportions.” (RC)

McCain is probably more ignorant than Bush and his old age makes him physically unable to deal with the mental part of the task of being president. He means well, but he just does NOT have the ‘Right Stuff’… He and Bush share the same odd notion that once Iraq is bombed then every thing will be just fine. If not then bomb Iran. If not then bomb Syria. If not then bomb North Korea. If not then bomb Nicaragua… None of which were our enemies until it became convenient for republican political reasons to make them so.

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Hey, Goofballs! Iraq was a threat long before Pres. Bush. And what’s wrong with “getting the Jewish vote” anyway? Better than getting the Hamas/Hezbollah vote, eh?

I`m about sick of jews ruining America. If jews cannot stand for themselves in israel then maybe it should disappear. We are not jew-protectors. Either sh&t or get off the pot.

For all of you intellectuals that think our problems in the middle east started with Bush or even Carter, go look up why Jefferson said, “Millions for defense, not one penny for tribute”. Our enemy then was a group called…wait for it…ISLAMIC JIHAD! They have been at war with us for 200 years, kids. They have just been so backwards that up until recently, they weren’t worth worrying about. No More. They want the world to live by their seventh century mindset, but control it with nukes and other forms of terrorism. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Not only should we incinerate any of these countries that are now becoming capable of spreading their hatred, we should also change our first amendment:
Constitutional Amendment to Clarify Religious Freedom
Posted by realetybytes.townhall.com on Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:57:49 AM
We have come to a point were we have to realize that certain realitys exist which make it necessary to protect the freedom loving citizens of the United States from fanatics out to destroy both us and our country. These fanatics are using our founding documents, which were drawn up in a time when no one could forsee todays world, against us. Our freedom of religion clause is a perfect example. It should be amended to read we are, “free to practice any religion that does not call for the subjugation, forced conversion or death of non-believers”. Simple and to the point.

Jimmy Carter won the Nobel because the committee wanted to stick its finger in George Bushs eye. He is an embarrasment to America, and should live in the middle east with Hamas.

Was a decent conversation till someone said “Jimmy Carter” in a positive way.

He had me all the way up till he said “…Israel’s security”. Uhhh they are big boys and it’s high time the US tax payer stop paying for their protection and US soldiers stop dying for them.
Cut the cord!

And just for you liberal knee jerk reactionaries not wanting to support Israel does not automatically make someone antisemitic. And for you neocon/nascar types I am not on the muslim/arab side either.

I am for America first and the ORIGINAL way our founding fathers handled foreign affairs.

“The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foregin nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible…” ~George Washington

Actually, Arabs are Semites too.

Anyone that thinks Jimmy Carter had anything but peanuts in his head is also a metal midget!

My 7 favorite Rover quotes:
“I am 47 years out of the God given womb myself…”
“I am semi-retired at 44… My internet business is in the black in my first year ”
“I am 47. Power engineer (can’t spell).”
“OK, so you got me, big deal your smarter than a 14 year old. Are you happy now?”
“If he was a nig, we would lynch him for sure”
“No!!, Low Cal Patsy, “I” am the anti-Semite! You just got dragged into it because you were standing next to me in cyberspace.”
“Ok, to Hell with the constitution!”

47, 44, 47, 14, racist, anti-Semite, traitor and he’s an admitted democrat. (Go figure)

Too funny…

I wish this deranged asshat would just run for president of Israel and leave us alone.

“Actually, Arabs are Semites too.”
Clearly, you don’t know the meaning of anti-Semite.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/90/A0349000.html

“SYLLABICATION: an·ti-Sem·ite
PRONUNCIATION: nt-smt, nt-
NOUN: One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.
OTHER FORMS: anti-Se·mitic (-s-mtk) —ADJECTIVE”

Anti-Semite scum will never be more than scum…

And anyone depending on wikopedia as a factual reference source is exactly what the democrats and their public school unions want – IGNORANT of facts and unable to find the truth. Exactly what the dems need, people they can keep victims and lead around by the nose. Reference materials are based in fact, as opposed to wikopedia, which can be changed by anyone.

“Clearly, you don’t know the meaning of anti-Semite.”

And, clearly SoCal, you refuse to acknowledge the very interesting etymology of the term.

Why do you think there is this seeming discontinuity with “Semite” and “Anti-semitic”? Pure freak chance?

Considering how passionate you are about clarifying the current usage of terms, you seem very disinterested in offering EXPLANATION of WHY there is this difference. What gives?

“Arabs are Semites too.”

Yes indeed.

But most Jews in Israel are not, the Ashkenazim.

Stand an Arab beside a real Jew and you won’t be able to tell them apart. Stand Goldie Hawn and Bill Kristol beside an Arab and……h’mmm.

McCain’s suck up to Israel is one for the books. Now Obama must top McCain.

Friends, hold on to your wallets.

“And, clearly SoCal, you refuse to acknowledge the very interesting etymology of the term.”

It’s etymology has nothing to do with it. Why do you think dictionaries define it as they do, retard?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism
“While the term’s etymology might suggest that antisemitism is directed against all Semitic peoples, since its creation it has been used exclusively to refer to hostility towards Jews.”

You lose again, retard…

SoCal,
I’m not arguing with you. Your point, very clearly, is that the modern common usage of “Anti-semitic” is “hostility towards Jews”. Yep. I agree. Totally. I’m glad to see you have made it past 6th grade, or whatever grade you learned how to look something up in the dictionary.

But wait! Why then, could it be, that we don’t use the term, “Anti-Jewish”?

Gee, I wonder why that is? What a completely fascinating curiosity.

“modern common usage”
Not modern common usage, “since its creation it has been used exclusively to refer to hostility towards Jews.”

You do know what Exclusively means, right?

“Why then, could it be, that we don’t use the term, “Anti-Jewish”?”
Feel free to use another synonym but that doesn’t change the meaning of anti-Semite to include other Semites.

SoCal,
“since its creation it has been used exclusively to refer to hostility towards Jews.”

HA! That is TRUE – BUT, when that term was created, there was a common misnomer. Can you guess what that was?

In 1880 German racialist Wilhelm Marr coined the term “Antisemitismus” as a “modern term” for “Judenhass” or Jew-hatred. What is critical to understand though, is that at that time in Western cultures, the term Semite was widely held to be synonymous with Jew.

So, perhaps when the term was created, it made sense. But we know better now.

Here’s a good article…
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D03E5DF1038F932A25757C0A9629C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

Why do American Jews have (seemingly) more loyalty to Israel than America? They talk incessantly about “what’s good for Israel” yet I RARELY hear them speak with much passion about issues that need to be solved here. However, to solve the long-standing conflict between Israel and the rest of the Middle East, Obama should very definitely sit down with all parties – people our government considers friend and foe, and attempt to work through a solution that is acceptable to all. This has been essentially left in the hands of Israel up to this point and they obviously have no vested interest in seeing it resolved as that would obviate the need for the massive annual infusion from the U.S. of training, technology and cash. So, this process needs to be taken away from the Israelis and handled by Obama’s team.

“So, perhaps when the term was created, it made sense. But we know better now.”
You’re just arguing semantics, “gay” used to mean happy too. We know better, gay means happy but it’s still used to mean homosexual like anti-Semite doesn’t include other Semites. The difference is, the meaning of gay was changed but the meaning of anti-Semite has not, despite the desire of anti-Semite scum to marginalize the term. You’ll notice it’s just the anti-Semites that whine about the word.

1. If McCain is this tongue-tied in upcoming debates with Obama, he is a sure loser.

2. The headlines on this piece are VERY MISLEADING, and seem to imply that OBAMA is the one being referred to in “A worldwide audience for a man who denies one Holocaust and talks before frenzied crowds about starting another.” WHO is responsible for such deliberating biased headlines to confuse people??

3. Why should Americans keep PAYING THE BILL for ISRAEL, and taking hits because of Israel? We have OUR OWN PROBLEMS! Let Israel take care of itself.

Sitting down with muslims to discuss peace is like without comparison. Of the 80 to 90 various hostile conflicts occurring presently in the world, the overwhelming common thread is that in each of these conflicts there will be a muslim antagonist. This has been the state of islam for the last thousand years…plus. If the world doesn’t snuff out this so-called religion, then the world will remain in a perpetual state of conflict or be over-run by islam totally. There it is…it couldn’t be put in simpler terms.

Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic. It is permissable to criticize Jewish leaders. Thousands of Jews live in Iran and are not threatened with genocide, and rabbis have met with Ahmadinejad in New York who also oppose Israel and Zionism. The Hitler rhetoric is a ploy of desperation that is blatant propaganda. Iran has never attacked another country, but the US and Israel have.

What a ridiculous propaganda stunt by McCain, reading what the neocon advisers have written for him on a tele-prompt. Let him speak for himself, and he will fumble the official propaganda, like he did when Lieberman corrected him about Iran arming Al Qaeda in Iraq…LOL. Please, we are wise to all rhetoric now, spare us the theatrics for war, and try to make a case based upon evidence of military hostility and imminent threat to the US or Israel, if you can. Speaking mere words, translated for us by bias sources, does not constitute and credible genuine military threat.

Rover and anyone who thinks like him are FOOLS!!Obama and his supporters are FOOLS! The DNC are FOOLS!! WAKE UP AMERICA…this is no time to kiss Iran’s ass because YOU hate Bush or won’t except the fact that we ARE winning the war there.Use your heads..if you have any.Look to God for the answers…not “The Secret” or any atheist democrat propaganda.If you don’t we are in grave danger. Vote McCain…if you want to save America.

“Criticizing Israel is not anti-Semitic. It is permissable to criticize Jewish leaders.”

If it’s honest and not lies…

I’m no fan of McCain, but he’s completely right on these national security issues. I couldn’t believe it when I heard Obama pridefully announce that he would meet w/ all of the world’s thuggish leaders without preconditions within the first year of his presidency. I knew right then that Obama is completely clueless about national security affairs. There are certain laws that apply to International Relations and diplomacy just as there are laws that govern the physical universe. Obama has consistently said that he will break these laws if elected president. To endeavor to break the laws of international relations makes just as much sense as to try to break the law of gravity by jumping off a building. Both scenarios inevitably end in disaster. Here are some of the international relations “laws” that Obama has said he will break:

1. He will announce troop withdrawal dates in Iraq. Do I even need to argue this one? You never let your enemies know your next move–as if that would help your strategic position! Stupid!

2. He will invade Pakistan in order to oust the rest of the Taliban and Al-Qaeda there. Normally (i.e., ALWAYS!), it’s not a good idea to invade an ally, Obama.

3. He will unilaterally disarm our strategic nuclear arsenal. This would be like unilaterally disarming yourself in a gunfight (“OK, I don’t want to play anymore”). Obama, do you think that rogue states will show compassion to us when we destroy our nukes? The most likely outcome is that they will use theirs on us, you idiot!

4. He will engage in talks with the world’s most ruthless thugs both in the first year of his presidency and without preconditions. Does Obama know nothing about bargaining or negotiating? Does he think he’ll leave each meeting singing kum-by-yah with those thugs? You never meet with thugs such as Ahmadinejad without preconditions! And you especially don’t do so in the first year of your presidency (where are your priorities, Obama!?)! Even liberal interational relations scholars agree on this!

In conclusion, the aforementioned are four reasons not to vote for Obama. To do so would be to encourage a completely ignorant approach to the laws of international relations. Ignorant people are often a danger to themselves. Ignorant people who believe they are right present even more of a danger. Ignorant people who think they are right and acquire power are an unacceptable danger to their own peoples and to the rest of the peoples of the world. Obama is ignorant. Obama thinks he can fly.

Wow… What a lot of passion and hatred. To paraphrase Bogart in the Maltese Falcon.” so many bombs and so few brains ‘
Unfortunatly, if one looks dispassionatley at history … the west vs. Islam is a solid argument. Unfortunate. Unless there is a basic change in the way people treat the ‘religious’ part of their lives, the conflict will never be solved. Fundamentalists of all stripes ( Christian, and Islamic ) are by their chosen belief system, intolerant. As long as that exists, then the only long term solution is the extinction of one side or the other. Or…. we could try educating our way out. Knowledge is the antidote to this hatred. Teaching people to learn and ask questions ,and NOT to just ‘believe’. Religion is in fact a crutch for the weak minded. Or a valuable tool for the manipulating con- artist or cynic. It has always been at the heart of all the horrors and cruelty throughout the ages. It is ,by it’s definition, antithetical to real knowledge.

Bottom line.. if we kill all the worlds Muslims …the fundamentalist Christians will come after the Jews next…. then the Methodists ..etc. We need to relegate religion to it’s rightful place…in the home as a personal choice, and OUT of the public and government policy discussions. The
founding Fathers had it right ,once again !!

Peter C: Look to God for the answers…not “The Secret” or any atheist democrat propaganda.If you don’t we are in grave danger. Vote McCain…if you want to save America.

Hahaha….are you joking? You think god has the answers? What century are you in? Maybe you should look somewhere else, as apparently you can’t think for yourself without consulting the bible, and you must watch Fox because you think we are winning the war in Iraq. And why don’t any of you neo-cons ever post on boards that matter? Oh right, because you don’t know what to do when the conversation is based around logic.

Hey yo Friar….dey’s a bridge on the East River I wanna sell yas. So you quote Bogart to make an argument? Hmmmmm….Then you equate “fundamentalist Christians” with islam…..more, Hmmmmmm. Tell you what dude, forget the bridge….how about an invisible submarine?

Actually…after a re-read of your post, I’m not sure that even you know what you are talking about. “Knowledge is the antidote to this hatred”? Are you trying to sound as if you actually attended school? Besides failing to make a cogent thought that connects or transitions from seemingly agreeing that one should look at history “dispassionately” to dissing Christianity to equating Christianity to that death cult called islam to a Leninist type description of religion being the opiate of the masses….Might I ask? Just what is your point, and where is it going?

Hey, Biased crud,
How could you possibly think that headline meant Obama? I apologize if I missed some joke. As fat as I know, Obama is anti-war – Who would think he wants to start a holocaust? As far as I know, He has never denied the holocaust. Again, I apologize if I missed something, but can you explain your statement? As someone who will not vote for the liberal McCain because he is a liberal, you can imagine that the thought of anyone voting for Obama is ridiculous, but I still can’t attribute these things to him. How could you?

“As fat as I know, Obama is anti-war – Who would think he wants to start a holocaust?”
He’s so anti-war it would embolden Iran, which could lead to a holocaust if they get nukes.

“liberal McCain”
He’s not a liberal, that’s just what retards say about him.

Hope that helps…

McCain is a liberal who wants to sell out the country to the Mexicans and the Jews. Anybody who supports him is a liberal, a Jew or a mexican or a libtard like Off Duty. Same thing anyway. The Jews want the Mexicans here so they can get cheap labor to wash their yachts and mow their lawns and polish their knobs. They want a war with Iran so they can make more money off of armaments and military uniforms and take over Iran for the Oil and the Real Estate.

None of that matters, because we can win any war, like we are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, so bring ‘em on. I say invade Iran with Mexicans, set up Taco Belles all over the place and make McCain the president of it, just get him out of here.

“McCain is a liberal who wants to sell out the country to the Mexicans and the Jews. Anybody who supports him is a liberal, a Jew or a mexican or a libtard like Off Duty.”
You’re and idiot, a bigot and a liar.

How do you see your computer monitor with your head so far up your ignorant ass?

Get used to saying President McCain and get your Prozac refilled. You’re going to need it, kid…

HEADLINE 1: “An Earful of Anti-Semitic Rants’: McCain Slams Obama Call for Iran Summit”

HEADLINE 2: “A worldwide audience for a man who denies one Holocaust and talks before frenzied crowds about starting another.”

Sorry, maybe, like Hillary, “I mispoke.” Read those two headlines and somehow put them together to both refer to Obama. Then tried to watch the video, but McCain’s tongue-tied stuttering and stammering was too painful so turned it off.

“Never mind!” re: Comment #2 but STET the other two (#1 and #3).

“Ignorant people are often a danger to themselves. Ignorant people who believe they are right present even more of a danger. Ignorant people who think they are right and acquire power are an unacceptable danger to their own peoples and to the rest of the peoples of the world.”

You WERE referring to BUSH, right?!

Hey Tards!!!

‘SoCal Patriot’ is “MY” asshat TROLL here!!!!!!

Don’t you go trying to take “MY” tards off of me!!!

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You might be an asshat, like all liberal scum, but quoting you doesn’t make me a troll, you whining about getting quoted makes you one though…

Poor rover hates it whenhe’s quoted:

My 7 favorite Rover quotes:
“I am 47 years out of the God given womb myself…”
“I am semi-retired at 44… My internet business is in the black in my first year ”
“I am 47. Power engineer (can’t spell).”
“OK, so you got me, big deal your smarter than a 14 year old. Are you happy now?”
“If he was a nig, we would lynch him for sure”
“No!!, Low Cal Patsy, “I” am the anti-Semite! You just got dragged into it because you were standing next to me in cyberspace.”
“Ok, to Hell with the constitution!”

47, 44, 47, 14, racist, anti-Semite, traitor and he’s an admitted democrat. (Go figure)

Too funny…

Poor old tard Pack Rat… Been a tough night now…

Here, let me just “do it” for you so you can just go “to tha head” and pass out …

“You might be an asshat, like all liberal scum, but quoting you doesn’t make me a troll, you whining about getting quoted makes you one though…

Poor rover hates it whenhe’s quoted:

My 7 favorite Rover quotes:
“I am 47 years out of the God given womb myself…”
“I am semi-retired at 44… My internet business is in the black in my first year ”
“I am 47. Power engineer (can’t spell).”
“OK, so you got me, big deal your smarter than a 14 year old. Are you happy now?”
“If he was a nig, we would lynch him for sure”
“No!!, Low Cal Patsy, “I” am the anti-Semite! You just got dragged into it because you were standing next to me in cyberspace.”
“Ok, to Hell with the constitution!”

47, 44, 47, 14, racist, anti-Semite, traitor and he’s an admitted democrat. (Go figure)

Too funny…”
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I love the people who think calling people retards somehow elevates them. The truth is, McCain is anti-free speech, pro-illegal immigration, anti-taxcuts, and anti-drilling, besides believing in the global warming scam. He is a rino, not to be trusted.

SoCal, what do we do when posters like redstater1 make a gratuitous attack over a point not even mentioned? His last spew attacked me for supporting McCain….which BTW, I am forced to do only because the alternative is too terrifying to even contemplate. Still, how does he make this leap?
And then, true to being a moon-bat leftie, he resorts to name-calling. I can just picture him right now, in his geriatric parents basement, (where they allow him to reside, more out of shame than pity), slinking over his keyboard, with a withered copy of “Catcher in the Rye” sticking out of his underwear. Can ya see it brother? Can Ya?
Do you think he is also “Rover”? They have a very, in fact all too similar style of writing and reason.

McCain should really keep pushing this issue. Continue showing America his foreign policy skills.

Gallop – “Americans Support Talking With Iran”
http://www.gallup.com/video/107578/Frank-Monday-Video.aspx

“SoCal Patriot June 2nd, 2008 – 4:02 pm

“Actually, Arabs are Semites too.”
Clearly, you don’t know the meaning of anti-Semite.”

Accoring to the dictionary:
Sem·ite Audio Help /ˈsÉ›maɪt or, especially Brit., ˈsimaɪt/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[sem-ahyt or, especially Brit., see-mahyt] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a member of any of various ancient and modern peoples originating in southwestern Asia, including the Akkadians, Canaanites, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and Arabs.

Do your homework first.

Hey Yeah, just because I don’t like Obama or think he’s ignorant doesn’t mean that I approve of George Bush by default. Yes, I think his foreign policy has been a mess, but I don’t think he lied to the American people about what he knew beforehand. Furthermore, whether the war in Iraq was a mistake or not, the answer is not to just pull out and leave Sunnis and Shias to kill one another. The U.S. has gained a reputation for pulling out of conflicts when they prove to be difficult (e.g. Vietnam, Somalia). We shouldn’t continue to uphold that reputation. America should have the backbone to finish what it started, even if doing so is not currently politically expedient.

Israel has the capability of taking care of its own affairs, militarily speaking. Many complain that they do not do so. Have you ever considered why they don’t? This is because the superpowers will not allow them to turn loose their considerable might other than the occasional strategic strike (Syria nuke plant, Iraq reactor). If Israel wanted to, it could level the entire radical Islamic portions of the Middle East within 24 hours. And it can be argued that the world would be better off for it. Israel has shown remarkable restraint thus far in not obliterating Gaza (how many nations would stand for rocket attacks against civilians) or the West Bank (and how many nations would stand for suicide bombings perpetrated by women and young people whose families are bribed with rewards for sacrificing their own children).

Let the Jew haters on this blog and others spend some time in a radical Islamic society and see how “welcome” they are in a Jew-hating world. Maybe they will be invited to remain awhile as hostages, subjected to radical Islamic hospitality. Perhaps then they would see how pointless and moronic their hatred really is and who the enemies of decent civilization actually are. The great irony is that in America, many of the Jew haters actually consider themselves to be “good Christians”. To those I say, next time you paint your backwoods trailers, try opening up the windows.

Obama is IMHO a Jew hating, America hating marxist who is conteolled by the uber libs like soros etal.
if this guy manages to sneak into the WH by selling his snake-oil to the public school educated fools we see swooning on TV, this country is gone boys and girls.
The balcks in congress like conyers have a reparations agenda that he will sign before the ink is dry..you think taxes are high now?

Assuming we still have a country after he surrenders to the muslims, he’ll stack the SC with every kind of lib judge to the point where the congress might as well go home, well, that might be a good thing.

This guy is dangerous, he is either too naive, too stupid or someone is pulling his strings…in any case, he has no business leading this country and the finest military the world has ever known.

The lib agenda has emasculted this country and filled it with wimps, when a hero warrior like JSM is only even with this lightweight surrender monkey, this population is doomed.

No reparations, unless they are PAID FOR by the DEWOLF Dynasty!

Somebody wrote:
“The balcks in congress like conyers have a reparations agenda that he will sign before the ink is dry..you think taxes are high now?”

There is absolutely NO REASON why present-day taxpayers should FOOT THE BILL to “repar” (offer reparations) any damages done by SLAVE TRADERS several hundred years ago. Let the BLEEDING-HEART DESCENDANTS OF THE DE WOLF DYNASTY PAY THE BILL, since their ancestors committed the heinous crimes of enslaving the blacks.

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