Christian Teacher Accused of ‘Branding’ Crosses on Students Arms Denies Abuse

"I'm extremely disappointed in the outcome on this."

June 21, 2008 at 7:45 am - WSYX-TV
Dateline: Mount Vernon, OH
SFC Jimmy   June 21st, 2008 - 8:40 am

A Bible on his Desk! OMG! What’s next? Hang that man!

Mort   June 21st, 2008 - 8:54 am

Anyone want to take a bet? I will bet the person who complained is jewish!

John   June 21st, 2008 - 9:05 am

He admitted to marking them with the tool…. I would bust his ass…If that was my kid, he would not be there to be on tv

Mort   June 21st, 2008 - 9:12 am

This story has grown legs. They 1st tried to remove him for having the Bible on his desk. Nothing else was even mentioned for 2 weeks.

Suddenly he is marking students. Read ACLU !

Mort   June 21st, 2008 - 9:50 am

Need proof:

revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2008/06/messianic-jews-under-increasing-violent.html

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Messianic “Jews” under increasing violent Israeli attack

Israel’s Messianic Jews: Police indifferent to threats against us

By The Associated Press
June 20, 2008

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz’s body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family. The explosion severed two toes, damaged his hearing and harmed a promising basketball career. Police say they are still searching for the assailants. But to the Ortiz family the motive of the attackers is clear: The Ortizes are Jews who believe that Jesus was the Messiah.

Israel’s tiny community of Messianic Jews, a mixed group of 10,000 people who include the California-based Jews for Jesus, complains of threats, harassment and police indifference. The March 20 bombing was the worst incident so far. In October, a mysterious fire damaged a Jerusalem church used by Messianic Jews, and last month ultra-Orthodox Jews torched a stack of Christian holy books distributed by missionaries.

The Foreign Ministry and two chief rabbis were quick to condemn the burning, but the Ortiz family says vigorous police action is needed.

“I believe that it will happen again, if not to us, then to other Messianic believers,” said Ami’s mother, Leah Ortiz, 54-year-old native of South Orange, N.J.

Proselytizing is strongly discouraged in Israel, a country whose population consists of a people that suffered centuries of persecution for not accepting Jesus and has little tolerance for missionary work.

ChuckL   June 21st, 2008 - 10:07 am

If this teacher wants to run a Sunday school class, let him do it at church, and not at a public school. If he was a Muslim, and was accused of doing this, you’d all be after him with tar and feathers, or worse.

Now, I’ll sit back and wait for the morons to reply “But this is a Christian nation!”

Yeah, right…lol.

Mort   June 21st, 2008 - 10:14 am

Trust me on this, it has nothing to do with a Christian nation on my part. I am an atheist.

My point is the jews are running America, it’s European Americans who made us great, not the jewish invaders.

This is why they have been removed, usually by force, any nation where they have insinuated themselves. It’s always for the same reasons.

Rover   June 21st, 2008 - 11:28 am

The real question is how did this nut get into the school system in the first place. The school board really needs to find out how this guy “got in”. Getting rid of this guy solved the immediate problem, but it is not the root cause of the greater problem of lunatics being in positions of responsibility in our schools. Teachers don’t make a lot of money, but there are a lot of good people out there trying to become teachers so there is no reason to tolerate trash like this.

d. Mal   June 21st, 2008 - 11:53 am

I used to think Mort was a simple garden variety anti-Semite with a screw loose — the way he posts trash compulsively, over and over again.

But I was wrong and I apologize. He is obviously a paid agent of the Anti-Defamation League who has been assigned the job of making anti-Semites look like idiots. And he is doing a terrific job.

jbh50   June 21st, 2008 - 11:58 am

How is a Bible sitting on a teacher’s desk offensive to anyone? And, the burns seem awfully suspicious to me. This would be a good case to follow.

As Jesus said, “they will hate you for loving me”.

Chris   June 21st, 2008 - 12:22 pm

More persecution against Christians. We have a history of being persecuted against, from the time of the Romans through the time of the Libronazis today. No group has suffered more than we or contiunes to suffer as much, but we keep our faith because it is the greatest religion in the world bar none.

The teacher is a true Christian and a Great American. We should support him to the fullest extent even if it means death for us as there is eternal life that cannot be taken from us. If someone was to manufacture temporary tatoos that looked like a cross burned into your arm I would bee the first to buy one. We all should wear them in support of the Teacher and Our Lord.

kevin   June 21st, 2008 - 1:57 pm

He broke the rules of his employer plain and simple.

And yes if it was the Koran he was teaching most of the scripture quoters would be calling for his arrest.

You want a Christian education like my kids have, go to a Christian school.

Dani   June 21st, 2008 - 2:02 pm

Its not a matter of religion guys, you can’t BURN students (which he admits to doing in the video, and in a published article). It doesn’t matter if it’s a cross or an ‘x’. The point is that he harmed middle school aged students, and should be fired for doing so.

Mort   June 21st, 2008 - 2:26 pm

I guess it will be interesting to see if it is a jew who filed suit!

Still bet is was!! And I know why!!

revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2008/06/messianic-jews-under-increasing-violent.html

Jesus H Christ   June 21st, 2008 - 2:27 pm

Oh little baby jesus weeps for all you cry-babys!

“Oh the persecution! But, we’re a Christian nation! (Nevermind the fact we hold the majority in every case) …but, but, we’re bein’ persecuted against…”

Grow up and realize the only path forward for humanity is one without *any* religion. History is littered with “my god is greater than your god” battles and wars. The only way for us to win is to get rid of it all.

Reverend Jim Jones   June 21st, 2008 - 2:49 pm

If we are a christian nation, as many of you think we are, then five years ago a christian nation unjustly and without provocation attacked and conquered a sovereign and predominantly muslim nation. Hmmm, would that make you angry if the religions were reversed?

Over 4,101 soldiers have died since then and we all continue to pay $720,000,000 a day because a self-righteous “holier-than-thou” leader thought he was doing god’s work.

erik   June 21st, 2008 - 3:10 pm

This seams to be much less of a story than the media implies it to be. Using the tesla coil on students was stupid not cruel. It did not hurt and would normally go away in a few hours. Getting and keeping kids interested in science is worth some red skin for a day. The stated pictures seam to be a rash from some equipment the child wore that night reacting with the tatoo. Most people do not like religious fundamentalist(me included) but I would like some science teachers comments on students who have been taught this way in grade school and then shown the error in there ways in high school, or if even having competing creationism viewpoints compels scientist to sharpen there evolutionary theory further. This should be the debate not about how much we hate fundamentalists.

Charles Robert   June 21st, 2008 - 3:28 pm

Scientific method implies continuous re-evaluation of everything that we think we understand and know to be true. Creationism is not science and should not be compared to it. Teach it in a philosophy or world mythologies course if you like, but it has no place in a science class.

AmericanCitizen   June 21st, 2008 - 3:31 pm

The people who support him having his Bible on the desk are short-sighted at best. Eventually it is going to be someone with a Koran or a Book of Mormon or a satanic bible…and then what? Do you still want that out for your kids? He is trying to be provocative, otherwise he would put the Bible in a drawer. Should he really even have it there? Is he not being paid to work rather than conduct his personal life? Maybe he should have literature for sex-change surgery laying out. Or a “Faces of Death” DVD. It just has no place in the classroom. Keep your personal life to yourself.

Pascal's Tooter   June 21st, 2008 - 5:17 pm

How did this discussion stray so far from the basic fact that a self-righteous christian branded a kid – however temporary it may have been – with a cross? He was dumb enough to do it. He was dumb enough to admit doing it. That does not mean all you “fundie” conspiracy nuts have to flout your “dumb-ness”, too! Go back to your dark caves and invent some more ever-so-fantastic tales of all the things that your god can do.

Larse   June 22nd, 2008 - 2:40 am

Hitler was a Christian… But Jesus did not stop him…

So Jesus is a Nazi, or simply does not exist in ‘reality’…

Zayne S Halsall   June 22nd, 2008 - 7:14 am

Regardless of the issue at hand, on any given Internet forum/article/blog, there are always Americans on standby – ready to jump into action with inane, ridiculous and/or belaboured arguments proving nothing but the obvious deterioration of your educational system, and your rampant media-controlled minds.

Yay for Western culture.

James   June 23rd, 2008 - 9:59 am

The core issue here is not wheter or not the teacher is a christian. i am a christian myself, but i believe his actions are wrong. if he was going to show the students something scientific, then he should have done it to himself, or brought in waivers for the kids to take home explaining to the parents exactly what he was doing and the “science” behind it. That is the issue here, not his faith, not the jews and certainly not the Bible on his desk.

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