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If this person sues it will be in federal court. She and her lawyer should pray that I do not sit upon the jury. Bratty kids should be quiet but, as is obvious here, the parents are the ones responsible for their continued unaccepatable behavior. If sit, she loses.
R, yea you wish this would happen more often, until airlines start tossing off a-holes like R because they don’t like what you have to say. I guess you really didn’t view the story, or maybe you weren’t paying attention. The flight attendant LIED to the pilot in order to get HER WAY and PUNISH the mom. NONE of the other passengers complained, in fact, most DEFENDED the MOM. Let me break it down for you R. The flight attendant thought that being a flight attendant was a cool and sexy job because she’s just so FABULOUS. She’s just starting to get the idea that she’s nothing more than a flying waitress, and she’s not too happy with her life anymore. So of course, nice traditional white suburban mothers and their bratty children are the root of all evil and the focus of her ire. It figures it was Continental. Can’t wait till they go out of business, and all of their flying waitresses go back to being plain old waitresses.
To the Mom …..a toddler…To the other passengers……A PAIN-IN-THE-BUTT
Obviously this flight attendant either doesn’t have children or doesn’t have a clue on how to manage a child.
If other people on the flight are annoyed by children then I think its about time the airlines have a family section. This is a long awaited wish I’ve had since I had children back in 1982.
You should be ashamed of yourself to take your frustration out on a child
Bet there are two sides to this one. There are way too many obnoxious, incompetent mothers running around who somehow think their little undisciplined #@%&* are so unique and cute that we are all supposed to fawn over them. They block everything with their freight car sized strollers, take a half an hour to get off the plane and they are as rude as can be and expect everyone to give them priority. I hate screamers on a plane more than just about anything. I think they should have ejection seats for them so if they don’t shut the heck up they push the button and the problem is solved.
Back in the good old days, we’d just put a little shot of gin in Jr.’s tippy-cup, and it was smooth traveling…
So what? I, too, get aggravated with parents who can’t control their children. TAKE A PARENTING CLASS!
As a pilot, AFTER returning to the gate, I would’ve gone back to assess the situation. According to the report, no one else seemed to be bothered and even defended the mother and child. Sounds like the FA went overboard. But, with people like Melvin, who pay $200 for a flight and expect 1st class service, and become aggressive, the min wage FA really is not going to put up with much anymore. Not even a baby who won’t be quiet. Should she be fired? Maybe. In Africa, I flew on a 737-800 in coach. In the very back there was a section strictly for children and parents. This section was seperated with a large curtain. In America, this would cost too much to even consider. Lord knows we would have 100 pages of “operations specification” to issue out to every crew member, and an act of congress to get it approved. Heaven help us if we segregate adults with children. Yes screaming babies are annoying. Which is why I bought an Ipod. For those “million mile” business guys, I would suggest getting one and get the Bose noise cancelling headsets! They will solve these annoying problems. Oh…and a fore warning. I am expecting my first in Oct, and am planning on flying with my wife and newborn to see my family in Alaska in Nov. No I will not be shoving drugs down her throat to keep her quiet.
“Bye,Bye fligth attendant’s job…Bye,Bye flight attendant’s job…”
I have three little girls and can honestly say that before having children I had a much different opinion of the little seat back kickers, whiners, criers and stinkers – It just does not bother me any more and before I hated it. Also, my Bose headphones and media player help immensely.
I am not saying that you have to have kids to understand or like it – just a different perspective I guess. Also, certainly we have all seen really bad parenting in public placesincluding planes so I am not siding with Mommy just because we do not have the full story and it was a hit job on the airline.
I also know that most flight attendants are awesone and this one may have just been having a bad day, but I would also like to hear the other side of the story to seeif this was a whacked out flight attendant our this lady really was obnoxious.
It is great for a two minute news story to show the little bubble boy as cute as a button not ticking anyone off and make the mother look as sympathetic as possible – maybe accurate, but I am sure there is some hyperbole there to “make the news” and have us react – “Evil flight attendant”.
Bottom line, learned it in Meet The Parents, if you want to stay on plane, listen and don’t tick off a fligth attendant no matter how bad they seem. These days, they can wreck your travel plans if you push back.
If you want to be righteous and feel it is a matter of principle then fine, but plan on returning to baggage in the terminal you left from to get your bags – or worse, be questioned by TSA and/or the FBI.
“Bye, Bye….”
Thank god. Shitty little children shouldn’t be allowed on planes. It’s bad enough “adults” scream at each other and make out on planes. That mother is whiny, self-absorbed, and irresponsible.
That’s one psychotic little grub.
God Bless this flight attendant. This mother sickens me. Take the child away from her before more damage is done. And put the the little brat on Ritalin. It is SO CLEAR that he has a behavior problem and guess who is to blame. This pathetic excuse for a mother. GOD BLESS AIRLINE ATTENDANTS. AND GOD BLESS GEORGE W. BUSH.
I would have had to have been there, but based on the way parents let children behave, I defer to the flight attendant. I ALWAYS bring an iPod and noise cancelling headphone because of that sort of thing. Thank goodness for audio books.
http://www.davecaprario.com
And this mother also needs to learn two words: Weight Watchers. Let me guess. She was too busy stuffing her face to realize what a crude little brat she brought on that plane. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!! GOD BLESS GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!! GOD BLESS FLIGHT ATTENDANTS!!!! These flight attendants need to spend their time ensuring Al-Qaeda operatives are not on the plane. They do NOT need to be wasting their time dealing with little brats that cannot be controlled by their overweight parents.
Sadly, I see many parents simply ignore their children when they are being loud and annoying. They say, I’m used to it….well, those of us without chiildren are not. We have as much right to enjoy our cramped flight as much as you and your noisy carpet cruncher.
Bottom line, be a good parent and shut your spawn up or expect older spawn to step up and say something. I didn’t pay 200 dollars to listen to a loud kid, a bitchy flight attendant or a biligernt drunk…I’d tell each one to stf up.
Let me start by saying I am a mother who has had to take a little one on a plane numerous times. That being said, I am sick of self-righteous, lazy mothers who let their kids make a bloody nuisance of themselves on airplanes. I did whatever it took to make sure my kid stayed occupied and quiet. Isn’t flying a miserable enough experience as it is? One is stuffed into woefully inadequate seats, fed crappy food and forced to use filthy bathrooms. An annoying kid making obnoxious noises nearby just adds insult to injury. Note to mothers everywhere: You might think your kid is cute when they won’t shut up, but the rest of us don’t. Do us all a favor and give ‘em the Benedryl.
My, it’s good to see that so many of you were perfect little children growing up. This kid wasn’t screeming he was excited about the airplane taking off. Noisy children are one of the risks you run when you travel on public transportation. For you selfish whiners out there, if you want to travel in peace and quiet, buy yourself a first class ticket. Thank goodness your parents didn’t have the same self absorbed attitude you share or we wouldn’t have been blessed to read your idiotic, self-centered comments.
To “George Washington”:
Let me guess. You’re also fat and have a bratty kid. Or maybe you have four bratty kids with four different partners. We all know your type. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!! GOD BLESS GEORGE W. BUSH!!!! GOD BLESS FLIGHT ATTENDANTS!!!!!
This is not a toughie — flight attendant should be fired. Customer service left the FA profession after 9/11. Now they’re rude and overly impressed with their job as an air waitress. My wife and I paid full fare for us and our 2 year old on that same route and had the flight attendant tell us that, when he cried, it was “unacceptable.” What is unacceptable is lack of professional behavior by this country’s FAs. They are simply the worst. I am a frequent flier for business and I can tell you it is worse that the general public really knows. It has been years since I have seen a polite and professional FA. By the way — we flew this same route — I’m wondering if was the same FA — aout mid 20’s and red hair. She suggested the same thing about drugs.
To “johnk”:
I am so happy to see that mentally challenged persons such as yourself are not afraid to post on this blog. Who said we were perfect little children??? Nice straw man. The point is that this flight attendant had seen enough. The parent was useless, was allowing her “little angel” to disrupt the entire flight, and would not take some sage advice. And it distracted the flight attendant from observing suspicious behavior by possible Al-Qaeda operatives. This mother was aiding the enemy. She’s lucky they don’t ship her to Gitmo. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! GOD BLESS GEORGE W. BUSH!!!!
from reading the comments posted, i can see that there are more children on planes than meets the eye.
To the Mom …..a toddler…To the other passengers……A PAIN-IN-THE-BUTT…
Thank god. Shitty little children shouldn’t be allowed on planes. It’s bad enough “adults†scream at each other and make out on planes. That mother is whiny, self-absorbed, and irresponsible…
That’s one psychotic little grub.
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these are just a sample of the childlike; rolling on the ground tantrums that most grown “Children” have. I am disgusted at the lack of common civility most people now have toward their fellow man. Adults find solutions to problems, children throw tantrums.
This is not unique to airlines, it is an epidemic of our narcisistic society. Do you really think all would be well if there were no children on the plane? You would still find something to complain about and a reason to throw your tantrum, children always do.
The same idiots who are suggesting that toddlers should be shushed with Benadryl, are the same parents who are drugging their school aged children with Prozak.
“Oh…and a fore warning. I am expecting my first in Oct, and am planning on flying with my wife and newborn to see my family in Alaska in Nov. No I will not be shoving drugs down her throat to keep her quiet.”
John, honey, I bet you are just as brusque and as abrasive in the cockpit as you are on this board. Please tell me which airline employs you so that I can avoid it like Al Sharpton’s weave.
And after 6 months of sleepless nights with teething, 2 am feedings and colic, I guarantee you that you will be ready to drug the little rugrat so you and the Mrs. can get some sleep.
Baba, honey – right on. I am the type of person who will tell other people’s kids to SHUT UP. I did it once on a flight from Houston to London, and the first class steward gave me a bottle of champagne as a gift from the other passengers.
Robert Benchley said it best: “There are two ways to travel – first class and with children.”
Smooches,
Shenehneh
Hey Baba Booey, you need to stop with the “God Bless” comments. There’s no merit behind it when someone as yorself uses it.
I say good! if parents can’t be responsible for their children then off they go. I must admit I have felt like choking a lot of these spoiled brats.
“The same idiots who are suggesting that toddlers should be shushed with Benadryl, are the same parents who are drugging their school aged children with Prozak.”
Please stop with the ridiculous straw man arguments. Is this truly the best that you can do? Deal with the issue at hand. This horrible excuse for a mother let her child run wild on an airplane and terrorize the other passengers. Now she wants her 15 minutes of fame. It’s true that we’re letting her have those 15 minutes by even discussing this but maybe the negative reaction will dissuade her from filing her inevitable lawsuit and dissuade like-minded parents from following her path.
Baba Said – “These flight attendants need to spend their time ensuring Al-Qaeda operatives are not on the plane.”
Baba, that’s no their job. That’ the job of TSA and the Sky Marhsalls. How stupid is yah?
Oooooh, the Staw Man Argument, Did you just look that up on Wikipedia?
Larry, I will gladly tag-team with you on the next flight that has too many rugrats on it.
If schools can punish parents for what their little darlings do, then the airlines should also hold the parents of these little demons accountable as well.
I don’t think these parents use enough discipline and that is the problem. When I was young, I knew better than to act up and make a scene, or else Mama would have knocked me into next week.
Today’s touchy-feely parents are sparing the rod and spoiling their child. And it shows.
Smooches,
Sheneneh
“Baba, that’s no their job. That’ the job of TSA and the Sky Marhsalls. How stupid is yah?”
Nothing personal but, at a minimum, you’ll need to write at a fourth-grade level if you want me to respond. But at least you’re attempting to get your neurons to fire, unlike the mother in this story!
Before hammering the FA and airline, the report only told the side of the mother. Also, the “other passenger” could very well have been a friend of the mother. The reporter did not talk to any other passengers because airlines do not pass out passenger manifests.
Also, airlines rarely put their FA and pilots before the cameras due to their attorny’s recommendations. After all, with a bit of creative editing & writing, selective sound bites and a pre-slant bias, comments by an employee can be twisted.
I can’t believe the hateful comments about children that are being posted. Where do you people get your negative attitudes from??
Anyway, the point is, it looks as if the flight attendant lied to punish this poor mom who, along with the rest of the passengers endured an 11 hour delay (I can’t imagine!.. poor kid).
Anyway the kid wasn’t screaming or yelling, just talking. What is the problem with that? Apparently the other passengers didn’t mind.
To you kid haters out there that are posting such terrible dribble…stoping being so intolerant!!! What comes around goes around, I’m sure you will expect more compassion when you are in your golden years and are unable to excute perfect control over your actions/bodily functions.
Two words for that BRAT!
WORK CAMP until age of 21
I agree with T Nick. Whatever actually happened here, this is a truly bad piece of journalism. And to Baba Booey, you’re probably a troll but you raise some half-decent points. You can see the dollar signs in that mother’s eyes. Lawsuit, here we come.
To “Elle”:
I don’t have control over my bodily functions now. That doesn’t stop me from seeing how ridiculous this mother’s arguments are. She’s looking for a big payout, plain and simple.
“I can’t believe the hateful comments about children that are being posted. Where do you people get your negative attitudes from??”
From dimwitted, touchy-feely, “tolerant” moonbats such as yourselves, girlfriend. You know, the snooty ones who go along to get along, and mind everyone else’s business but their own.
All I can say is that the closed mind erects strong barriers.
SNAP. I am done.
Smooches,
Sheneneh
I wonder if the flight attendent is related to the crude, rude, and socially unacceptable Continental gate agent I had a run in with in Newark, New Jersy last December. Or maybe Continental let the agent become a flight attendent.
I still see many ladies coming back with “you all drink too much Hatorade” when it comes to kids. No…I have no trouble with well behaved kids. Just like I have no trouble with well behaved adults.
The issue is control and being curteous to those around you. Just because you have a child does not mean that you can just throw your hands up and say “he’s just a kid”.
I also had the crap smacked out of me by my mom for being disruptive on an airplane when I was a kid. I learned and guess what? You can too.
But hey…let’s keep sparing the rod and see what a bunch of little whiney twits we end up with running this county. See how they take care of you in your golden years when chances are they won’t even be able to take care of themselves.
“Grandma, I don’t want to clean up your poop…*whine* I’m going to the Amy Winehouse reunion concert – bye!” LMAO!
Shenehneh
On the contrary I happen to very safe in the cockpit, spent many years as a bush pilot (once the 3rd most dangerous job) and have never bent a piece of metal…knock on wood. I have, however, only been flying in the airlines for a few years. What a completely different world. I see it EVERYDAY. Sure kids are kids. I sit next to them commuting twice a week. I get pissed too, but guess what, I understand. I have sisters, cousins, nephews, nieces and I love them to death. Will I bring my daughter to a movie theater? No. But the fact is it’s the fastest form of transportation, and cheapest. So in the retrospect of a few here, I suppose we should not allow handicaps, they are slow, require to much time getting wheelchairs to and from. We should also ban elderly people. They are often confused, can’t find their gates, can’t get down the aisle or stow their carry-on’s quick enough. How annoying is that? Especially the ones that require oxygen. Then there are the annoying “million mile” business men flying in coach, with their laptops on bright, knows everything and won’t shut up. And finally, there are those like baba booey, who make no sense what so ever and preach their one and only agenda to whoever is around. GOD BLESS THIS AND GOD BLESS THAT, except when it comes to children…I’m sure God agrees with that. What the hell does GW have to do with a kid who’s enthused to be on a plane and an overzealous flight attendant. Get a life!!! If you want peace and quiet, spend the money and get a first class upgrade. Usually won’t find kids up there. Otherwise, sit in the back with the rest of us cheap slobs whose kids talk, grandmas snort, and friends get obnoxiously drunk. That is my point. If I pay just as much as the next guy to buy a ticket, I have every right to NOT want to drug my newborn when I fly. GOD BLESS THE CHILDREN!
The mom should have said she’d give her boy some baby benadryl as long as the flight attendant would take down some rat poison. It would be doing everyone a favor if this pathetic FA didn’t have to waste the oxygen that I so cherish!
LOL!!! You guys make it sound like the kid was screamikng out obsenities. He was just saying “Bye bye plane.” OH NO! A TERRORIST ACT BY A 19 MONTH OLD! I hope she sues the flight attendant and the airline and get’s a butt load of their money. Sorry but if some jerkoff told me to drug my child simply because they were uncomfortable with their ramblings I would tear them a new one. It’s a 19 month old for god’s sake. Sounds like many of you have something against kids on airplanes and are taking it out on this one kid. Sorry but as the story said NO ONE was bothered by the kid. I hope she gets a fantastic lawyer.
Just curious if all you ignorant fools siding with the flight attendant bothered to read the article?
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13664685/detail.html
If you all read the article and still side with the flight attendant maybe you should feel free to jump out the exit door of your next plane ride. A few less morons like yourselves would make this nation a better place!!!
Get real people
First, cut a toddler some slack, he was just talking.
but that isn’t the issue with this story.
The real issue is that a Flight Attendant got her nose all bent out of shape and inconvenienced a plane full of passengers by having the plane turn around after having endured an 11 hour delay.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
I’m so saddened by the hateful comments not only about a precious young child, but about his mother. I can’t believe that some of you out there lashing out at her ‘weight’? Why the personal attacks? Is it because you can’t put a logical argument together?
How very sad
Please deal with you anger issues and if you next time fly on your private jet
Kudos to the flight attendant and the airline. Maybe some people will learn to keep their obnoxious brats at home and not annoy other paying customers.
Now if we could just get this kind of action in restaurants…..
Dear Jojo and other bleeding heart, child centered and soft-headed people. The flight attendent is not there to be a baby sitter for one noisy child who has NOT been taught obedience by her parents. She is there so that 100 people can enjoy the flight. Send the child to a Nanny for obedience classes, not to an airplane seat.
Wahwahwah
From the article:
“A fellow passenger told Channel 2’s Rachel Kim none of the other passengers had problems with Garren and that Penland never threatened the flight attendant.”
Good thing that guy has the ability to know what all the other passengers were thinking. We need more of HIM on our planes so this never happens again.
btw – I jump out of planes all the time.
awesome…i had one sit in my row that pooped in their diapers and the dad just sat there with the child. the guy next to me finally said something to the dad and told him to go change the little guy.
Elle, you bring up a good point. Personal attacks based on appearance is pretty low.
However it is another excellent point…Fat people on planes that take up more than their own seat.
That is actually worse than an annoying child/adult. I mean, this is my seat. I paid for it yet they spill over into your seat.
I hate smell goldbond powder.
As a mother of 4 children (age 8 and under), I doubt very highly this child was kicked off the airplane for “talking”. We’ve never had a problem with our children on airplanes. We’ve actually been complemented because so many people “anticipate” their flight will be ruined by children being aboard. I have to wonder: just how loud was this child to be removed from an airplane??????
Can’t we all just get along??? Children will talk too much, but yes they can be made to stop…without drugs. I don’t think anyone should have to leave a plane because their toddler is noisy. We need patience. Perhaps if the flight attendant had a lollipop…? Customer service.
Should not travel unprepared…why did you not have diapers? boo hoo poor me!
No, do not drug your kid up, just let the rest of the folks drink themselves into a daze so they can get through the flight with that darling of yours!
Perhaps flights for little brats and their parents ONLY is a good solution….I will be glad to book it for ya,pay for it,I will even fly the plane if the cockpit is sound proof!
I fly on a monthly basis for work. The problem of parents who feel they do not need to take responsibility of their children’s social behavior in public and specifically on airplanes is viral and omnipresent. Kudos Continental Airlines and to all other’s who stand up for the rest of us who have the right to dine, fly, attend a movie, etc., in public and in peace.
For those of you who say, “come on, it’s just a child”, or say “the rest of the passengers took no issue with the noise” in this case, I suggest you take your own emotions out of the equation and re-assess. The issue at hand has nothing to do with the child – but with the parent’s inability or unwillingness to parent in public.
Your child is your responsibility and his/her behavior in public is also your responsibility. If you or your kids can’t figure out how to use an indoor voice – hey, I hope more establishments boot you to the curb. Or maybe you can’t hear this message, because you are also the person sitting three seats away from me at Boston Logan Airport speaking six times as loud as necessary into your cell phone, so the other 50 of us can’t read our books in peace.
Bob, your most eloquent post should sum up this entire debate. I think you nailed it right on the head. Thanks for saying it in a way that should be easily understood by all parties.
Kudos to the flight attendant!
Someone needs to apply some discipline and if the parents don’t do it, who will?
Dooda
Botton line : The FA LIED to the pilot and screwed over EVERYONE on the plane with a huge delay. That’s prolly a crime! If not, it should be. If that FA can’t handle a little kid that was NOT screaming or running wild, maybe she should take up a job as a guard in a STATE PRISON.
Hey Jim,you are correct…Bob’s post is great..however I don’t think these people really care about manners or civility..do you! When my sons were small,we left afew places afew times if we couldn’t calm em down…geez,they were annoying me so I know how others felt…the worst was when we left a drive in movie(back in the day) as our 2 yr.old was flipping out..haha
tinkan – What is prolly?
the FA was trying (poorly) to get the child to be quiet. That being said it falls upon the parent to make her child comply.
Would you rather the FA try to get the child to be quiet? Maybe sternly warn the child in the mother’s stead? FA’s are not your momma. DO your job and they do theirs.
The first clue here is that the Mother didn’t have extra diapers. Any responsible Mother carries plenty of extra supplies – it sounds as if the story told by the Flight Attendant may be a lot more believable than that told by a Mother who has demonstrated clear incompetence. Any child, even two, can be controlled by a caring and responsible Mother. It would be interesting to hear the rest of the story.
Children are to be seen NOT HEARD – End of Story. If you can’t control your children then don’t take them in public. Insolent Children and their parents should be shot.
Delly,
I hear you. I was a loud child until I learned my inside voice. I was/still can be very annoying. But my Grandma and mom taught me how act in public. They said things like:
“How would you like it if we talked that loud in your ear?” or “I am sure those people do not want to hear our conversation.”
I was brought up to be aware of my surroundings and those around me. I think we are seeing people tired of parents not taking control and just hoping they can make it from point A to point B before they have to act like a parent in public.
Movies, stores, public transportation…it is insane how many people just let their youth run amuck without providing any level of reprimand about their behavior.
It is simply incensing. So I can understand why so many here are just venting. Many (not all) parents seem less inclined to use discipline on any level.
Now don’t get me wrong. I can sympathize with the lady trying to get her kid to behave. If anything I feel more for her that she is trying instead of what is the new norm of just ignore it.
Welcome to the United Socialist States of America, a.k.a. U.S.S.A.
Most of the comments above are only possible by people that view children as property of the state.
Was it the phrase “Bye bye plane” that disturbed the attendant more than anything? Was her brain hearing “Plane go boom”?
Are you people Nuts? It’s a little kid saying “bye, bye Plane”. Big deal! Airline travel is for the masses now, the old days of the elite only traveling by plane is long gone. It’s no wonder we have such angry, aggressive kids, with people like you raising them.
I took a flight with my fourteen month old grandson, he didnt cry, fuss or cause any kind of scene. He took his bottle and went to sleep for almost the entire flight.
BUT the little spoiled brat b*t*h behind us (about four years old) threw a screaming tantrum because the actual ticket holder came and took her place next to the window! The mother negoiated with the woman to exchange places with the child. OH HELL NO
Then when they got off the plane…..the irresponsible, model-skinny, overly made up, bleached blonde, brainless wonder of a mother walked at least ten feet in front of the little girl, as she struggled to keep up with her
mother, dolly, blanket and pacifer in tow, I kept wondering if this woman knew the danger she put her child in as she pranced in front of her through the airport.
Goes to show ya upbringing is everything
“Justin Credible” is a moron.
This situation, and the comments above are evidence of the deterioration of camaraderie and tolerance in American society. People who claim that children should be seen and not hear should, themselves, learn to keep their fat lips shut. It is usually these types that obnoxiously complain ad-infinitum about their health, people in general, and especially children. They should do us all a favor and get two types of surgery: 1) A permanent jaw wiring, and, 2) Sterilization.
I applaud Continental Airlines for taking them off of the plane. Just as adults, Children don’t have the right to annoy passengers on a plane. In my opinion, children should not even be allowed to fly because of all the screaming that many of them do. Parents are used to their kids screaming and dont realize (or could care less) how excruciating it is for other passengers. I like kids, but do your children have the right to kick,scream and act out on a plane? Adults can’t so why should they? If toddlers can’t behave, then they should’nt fly. Cheers!
Buba Said – “Nothing personal but, at a minimum, you’ll need to write at a fourth-grade level if you want me to respond. But at least you’re attempting to get your neurons to fire, unlike the mother in this story!”
Apparently I do, considering you responded. Doh!
BTW Buba, The “How stupid is yah?” was a rhetorical question.
Fire the Flight Attendant
Jim, I think I am related to your Mom and Grandma AND I also think we are in the minority as far as civility goes..Sure you are annoying at times, we all are,but we need to learn to control it in public..thats happening less and less….Now ..was the mommy or the FA overreacting at some point? Does the media have the story straight? Is legal action in line? So many victims and dollars sure do makes em feel better…Did ya find out what a prolly is? me need to be knowing that one
Still loving Bob’s post,only problem is,,maybe he assumes he is dealing with intelligent people who care what others think..you go Bob….
Delly Said – “No, do not drug your kid up, just let the rest of the folks drink themselves into a daze so they can get through the flight with that darling of yours!”
Delly, There is in an old saying, “When all you have is hammer, everything begins to look like a nail.” You junkies only see one solution to any problem: drugs or alcohol.
I called the airline to get their side of the argument and asked what was going to be done.
Someone named “Scott†in an obnoxious tone told me that he didn’t believe it when I told him that a mother and her toddler was removed from a flight. He spewed other verbal abuses as well. It appears that at Continental Airlines rude, obnoxious behavior is systemic.
I have never understood why many parents of young children feel entitled to impose their children’s misbehavior on those who by chance maybe near without as much as an apology. The world does not owe anyone a living, and parents who fail to teach their children to be respectful of the reasonable expectations of others are bringing up
asocial misfits who will create problems for the society that surrounds them and, more greviously, for themselves, As has been stated many times by child psychologists, the education of a child begins when s/he is born. Parents who do not teach their children the parameters of acceptable behavior are setting them up for future societal dusfunction and, eventually, rejection.
While the flight attendant may have acted a little harshly, perhaps, I applaud the attendant’s recognition of the rights of the other passangers to be free from the nuisance of an uncontrolled child.
I may add that I have observed children misbehavior in airplanes ONLY in this country.
Last I checked airlines may refuse service to whom ever they choose. I hope they stand behind their employee and not let all this BS hype blow it out of proportion. If you really don’t like them then fly another airline. What the hell is wrong with dicipling your piece of $#!^ kid!
sheesh
Obviously, the people who support the flight attendant’s criminal behavior fall into one of three categories: They are either 1)Continental Airline shills working damage control, 2) people who have never traveled more than a few miles from home in their entire lives, 3) childless due to genetic or physiological defect.
A few facts: Quality FA’s are becoming increasingly rare. I’ve traveled by air hundreds of times all over the world, and you haven’t. So shut up. You don’t know what you’re talking about. R-E-A-D the story one more time, aloud if that helps. US airlines and their unionized, lard-ass, lazy, disgruntled flight attendants are the worst.
I suppose none of you idiots made noise when you were children. Or was it the sip of booze your parents tricked you into drinking that kept you quiet? Or was it the fetal alcohol syndrome?
I hope the mom sues and I hope she wins. And I hope that flight attendant is arrested and sent to jail for forcing a plane to land under false pretense.
And to Continental (one of the worst): I hope you reap what you have sown.
Passengers should have beaten the flight attendant. Cocktail waitresses is all they are.
Here are some facts for the child-haters out there:
1) Children cry.
2) Young children don’t have a volume knob that you can turn down at will. Older children can learn to restrain their voices in public.
3) Generally speaking, there are roughly 2 children for every adult. This means that, when you are in public you are likely to see more children than adults. Chances are greater that you will encounter children at some point in your public “wanderings.”
Learn to deal with it, people, instead of knee-jerkingly blame the parents for their cranky children. It’s been my experience that MOST parents teach their children restraint in public. Everybody has a bad day, though, even kids. And kids are more likely to let everyone know they’re having a bad day in the most simple way: They will cry.
DEAL WITH IT!
oh I am so busted…haha..and I am guessing you must be a carpenter or a recovering addict since you are assuming I am a junkie..no really junk in your trunk ,I was being sarcastic, but do tell, how do you handle those situations? I have actually offered help to moms,but usually I do just grind my teeth and wait for landing
If the mom is trying it is less annoying and some do welcome the offer of help…btw I do have a drink on occasion..what are your secret little vices as you hide behind your keyboard judging others hmmmmmmmm??????
i hope that flight attendant gets fired/sued/arrested for her behavior. As long as the kid wasnt annoying the other passengers, why should she care? The fact that she lied to the pilot really makes me angry…I hope they sent her off to a maximum prison for the rest of her life. People like that shouldnt be allowed to live in a society.
P.S. I hope that flight attendant reads my comment..muahahahaha
if i were there, I’d have had problems with “garin” or whatever the hell his garrish name is. It’s not my obligation to have to listen to someone elses child be loud and obnoxious.
everyone who wrote a comment here should fly on the same plane..with that flight attendant… then beat her from the time the plane takes off to till it lands!!
What’s being a carpenter have anything to do with it. Delly? Are you a “carpenter-phobe” or something?
You must be a chimney sweep or something to make a remark like that.
I flew from Hawai’i to Chicago and sat next to a 4 year old girl who yelled, cried, hit me, hit her mother, and constantly pressed my flight attendant call button. All that her mother did was get frustrated and cuss at her child, which didn’t help matters at all. It was the longest 9 hours of my life. At one point the girl’s mother got so fed up with her own child she just walked away, and sat in the lavatory for close to 20 minutes until her daughter cried herself to sleep. I wanted them both thrown off the plane…in midair.
someone should have thrown that flight attendant out of the plane…in midair…
Anyone who has flown at least in this country knows that there are times when moms and dads allow their little ones to drive other passengers nuts. These folks deserve to be kicked off. However, admit it all you child haters, “customer service†in the Airline industry is now non-existent. It is easy to take the mother’s side if its true that the other passengers were on her side because I have seen obnoxious behavior in Airline employees and so have you.
Oh big O,I was referring to previous posts tsk tsk tsk…good bye ,it seems ignorance abounds in the evening hours and I shall leave you experts to it!!!!!
Good. This mom is so idiotic. No body wants to listen to kids scream and cry for the flight they pay for. If you’re kid doesn’t know how to be quiet or can’t control himself, then you shouldn’t be flying with a little kid. All I know is if I had to listen to this kid for my flight I’d prolly kick the kid off myself.
The mom should find an expensive attorney and seek damages against both the airline and the stewardess. There is no excuse for what they did. The incompetent stewardess probably didn’t realize (because she is most likely an airhead) that the child said “bye, bye plane” because at the moment didn’t want to be on the plane. My child who is two years of age OFTEN says “bye, bye” to anything she doesn’t like at the moment. Lately, I’ve read more and more stories about airlines stewardesses who can’t handle their job and act like adults. Perhaps Continental should send their employees to child class or else just ban all families from children from flying. As someone who flies often … stewardess and passengers just need to get over it.
I do not know about other commenter’s on this site but you just do not “shut-up” a 1 and a half yr old.
I think ’stews’ have gotten way to demanding and aggressive since their ability to just do about whatever pleases them has grown since the new security measures have taken hold on air travel. They have developed a I’m god like syndrome. People, GROW UP and quit acting like a baby, small kids talk, that’s what they do. They are learning how to communicate. God,, some of the adults on this comment section are more childish than any kid could be.
I guess she should have drugged her kid huh. Its funny but the report said the other passengers we’re not bothered by the child.
I hope the &#*^@ that threw the woman and her child off gets fired, Plus maybe the airlines should rethink some of the rules which give such ‘people’ this type of power to begin with. But really people should just quit using air travel so much till things change for the better for air travelers. Its like you give up every right you have once you get in an air terminal, and then become some drone once on the flight, at the mercy
of idiots who evidently can not think rationally
themselves.
TALKATIVE TODDLERS AND INFANTS ARE NOT BRATTY, just ask any pediatrician. They are children just being themselves. Redirecting an anxious child is not difficult to do. I have been on MANY flights and the children are never the issue, it’s the nasty people who can’t find a person willing enough to breed with them in order to have children of their own, that are the problem. Pure jealousy and resentment that you can’t have a wonderful child of your own. For all of you nasty people, KARMA is real, and you will see it someday and remember what you said about that mother and her child.
Badonk-i-Donk Said – “Last I checked airlines may refuse service to whom ever they choose.”
Oh Really, ever hear of age discrimination?
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Update: I just spoke to the airline. I tried to have a dialogue with them regarding the situation as I’m in the process of booking a family vacation. First, the customer service rep didn’t know what I was talking about, and tried to refer to me to a situation that occured months ago. When I mentioned the situation, he became very rude and defensive. I was simply looking for assurance that we wouldn’t be kicked off the plane for my two year old. He basically said that if the stewardess doesn’t like what your child is saying they have a right to turn around the plane and kick you off. He was also fairly rude… then said oh, this is the reservation line, sir are you going to make a reservation, I told him that this was supposed to be the “customer service line”. My view after this conversation is that there is clearly an attitude problem with Continental and their staff. I’ve never heard so many defensive statements from any airline customer service rep in my mind. He was crass and rude. Wow. What an outfit.
parents should be responsible for their children. parents should have control over their children. it is not the flight attendant’s job to do so. however, since the mother clearly was incapable of doing her job, the flight attandant had to intervene.
Iris do you work for Continental or one of its affiliates?
The mother of a child like this, makes me believe even more in abortion.
My goodness, this is a 19 month baby. I wish people would take pleasure in the sweet, innocent chatter of a child. This is something we adults have forgotten. We are all so involved in our own pursuits and troubles, and sometimes pursuing our own pleasures. It takes a child to tell us how to live in the moment and take pleasure from small things in the present.
And, so what if the child was noisy? There is an innocence about that too, that needs to be enjoyed and learnt from.
I am frequent flyer, and I always love it when there are children on the plane, it makes an otherwise boring trip go quickly.
I live close to NJ where Continental has a large presence, from now I will try hard to avoid Continental Airlines, even if it means a little hassle to me.
In the spirit of “God bless”, if anyone is deserving of those blessings it is the children and their mothers (and fathers).
Let us not over-react to small (and oftentimes delightful) interruptions to our routines.
Take care. Regards.
CTdad, what flight will you be on? I want to book another. Try growing up and take responsibility for your child. I have three of them and surely would have had more respect for my fellow passengers than to let one of my kids ruin their flight. You and this idiot mother need to take parenting classes or have a child protective agency take them to a foster home.
Elle:
“Please deal with you anger issues and if you next time fly on your private jet.”
I don’t have anger issues. I’ve never attacked or screamed at someone in public, and I’m very quiet and I keep to myself. It’s enraging that large boorish scum believe they have the right to unreasonably intrude upon others. If you keep yourself as I keep to myself, as civilized people do, I’m fine. I don’t think you fly at all.
I don’t really care if the mother is fat or not, I didn’t notice that part, I noticed her tone and attitude. Fat people burn more fuel and are the airlines problem, not mine. Please do contact me at your earliest convenience to transfer ownership of a Cessna Citation X and enough funds to cover all associated costs for the foreseeable future. Thanks.
Wow, America’s quota of retards must be getting pretty full from taking a look at most of these comments.
Children talk, babble and get excited when airplanes take off. It’s quite normal.
The other passengers did not have a problem, and tried to defend this passenger and little boy. I am betting the flight attendant simply hates children, apparently much like most of you writing here.
I have personally seen mothers and children kicked off aircraft twice in the past two years, and neither child was doing more than very light fussing. No tantrums, screaming or anything of the like. The passengers in these cases too were quite apalled at the draconian anti-child behavior of these particular FA’s.
You child haters out there, I am sure your mothers would laugh hysterically at your positions… as more than likely you were far more annoying than this particular toddler.
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I wish airlines would do this more often!