Online Video Shows How to Make ‘Modern Binary Explosive’ Similar to Flight 293 Device

The Jawa Report: I received a copy of this video the other day. The 23rd to be exact. It was the subject of some chatter on the boards talking about "Was it really safe to fly." No kidding.

December 26, 2009 at 12:18 pm - The Jawa Report
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annie   December 26th, 2009 - 2:05 pm

what is the point of showing this video? To teach would-be terrorists how to do this?

the last shot with the watermelon and pen would have sufficed. It’s irresponsible to post this.

FastFacts   December 26th, 2009 - 2:12 pm

This is sad that this type of information is floating around the internet. As a youth I may have tried to make one of these and killed myself or someone else just playing around with it. Sad.

So here is what we know. Nigerian Man, Son of Ex-First Bank CEO, sets off fireworks in NWA Plane. He has been under investigation for ties to terrorists for two years, FBI reports. He is a student in England and they are investigating any links to Al-Qaeda. Passengers on the Flight Tackled him and subdued him until the plane could land. Both British and American Security Levels have been raised.

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Roger   December 26th, 2009 - 2:14 pm

Annie, its a white and red paste. I didnt learn how to make it. Im sure with a little research I could, but this video shows us reality. Any would be terrorist already knows where to find the info to make this.

I guess Ignorance is bliss Annie.

Chaz   December 26th, 2009 - 2:35 pm

@annie, this isn’t the full video, and that video is already posted somewhere else. It’s already public domain. The information is already out there.

This stuff is out in the black market all over the world… swell… just swell…

Calvin&Hobbes   December 26th, 2009 - 2:37 pm

I’m glad it’s been posted. This should awaken the rest of us law-abiding civilized people to the dangerous terrorists tactics.

We’re in more danger keeping our head in the sand not wanting to know the sorts of dangers encountered outside our comfort zone.

Terrorists don’t learn anything from these videos posted on the internet, since they already know how to do make these types of weapons — they’re terrorists they’re constantly inventing new ways to kill people.

If I were a terrorist I would resent these videos been shown to the general public — they’re giving away my secrets.

john92657   December 26th, 2009 - 3:04 pm

I disagree with those who think posting this video is irresponsible. I believe NOT showing it would be irresponsible. The video doesn’t give the names of the binary components or where to purchase them so we don’t have to worry about junior blowing himself up this afternoon. The facts are that every serious terrorist in the world already has this information. The public needs to be educated about how our enemies operate and to what lengths they’ll go to try and destroy us. This video should be enlightening to those who have complained about security at airports as it pertains to liquids, etc. being allowed in baggage. Many think it’s silly or they’re being unnecessarily hassled, but a video like this is a public service, as it illustrates just how vulnerable we are and how one dedicated zealot can kill hundreds and strike fear into millions of people. Every American has to understand that we are in a war and that war is global and that the U.S. is a prime target. We all have a responsibilty to be vigilent and proactive in protecting our country, our loved ones and ourselves. Education and knowledge of our enemies and their methods is the first step toward defeating this evil.

cluelessinky   December 26th, 2009 - 3:10 pm

As has been stated in these responses, those who don’t know how to make these bombs will probably never have the desire to make them. Terrorists know this and use many more sophisticated tools. And while vigilance is necessary we must also recognize that rogue countries ( Saudi Arabia ) support and encourage these acts. Our primary duty is to protect our citizens and if that means a military presence in Suadi then so be it.

Right Wing Coward   December 26th, 2009 - 4:29 pm

Bunch of scared ninnies.

roxie s   December 26th, 2009 - 4:35 pm

annie, I agree with you. I was disappointed to see this on a Breitbart site. It is possible to let people know this stuff is out there without showing the whole video. It is a matter of principal. It is like having access to a video showing the gorey details of a murder, rape, or any other violent act taking place, and then posting it to let people know that this horror exist out there. It accomplishes nothing. We know! We have just had another attempted terriost attack on our country. If the plane had blown up would Breitbart have posted this? The timing of posting this is, if nothing else, in bad taste. And, if you do not agree with me, the you love Obama and democratic heathcare reform… just kidding! BTW, some guy is showing how to make one of these devises on Fox News as I write this. Oh well…

How would we know?   December 26th, 2009 - 4:59 pm

Right Wing Coward December 26th, 2009 – 4:29 pm
With the destruction Liberals have already caused in Detroit would anyone have known that a plane crashed there?

lemming   December 26th, 2009 - 4:59 pm

It looks bogus to me. Watch it in slow motion and observe the blast pattern. It looks as if something was inserted inside the watermelon that was detonated.

Frank Pinelander   December 26th, 2009 - 5:01 pm

When this first came out, I shared it with a friend that was an 18C – if you don’t know what that is, it doesn’t matter what you think/say.

This video is a crock, this product does not exist to this capacity.

There are flame sensitive products out there, obviously. But not to this apparent brisance.

More pablum for the masses, so they cry out to be saved.

WunderrKind   December 26th, 2009 - 5:32 pm

Fake explosion. Maybe this is the formula that Abdul tried. LOL

Lady liberty   December 26th, 2009 - 5:40 pm

I saw this video years ago right after 9-11.. it is old news..

DaverR   December 26th, 2009 - 6:47 pm

first, I consider this a public service. the more people know about methods the better. This stuff is simple to figure out on your own and the video doesn’t even tell you what the ingredients are.
Secondly, explosives with these properties do exist minus one thing. None of them can do this kind of damage per unit. This is exaggerated for impact in order to scare you. It should scare you, but it’s not all that it seems as shown here. This is simply a conceptual idea, and I’m giving the creator of the video benefit of doubt. I don’t think even HMX based stuff can deliver this kind of energy.

Frequent Flier   December 26th, 2009 - 7:06 pm

Annie – I’m with you! No need to show this.

If we would secure our borders and kick out all the illegals we would be a much more secure nation. I think we are being tricked into making us afraid of traveling (a way to control us) which leads us to “beg” the governmet for more control (unconstitutional searches without warrants.) Scary times we are living – I’m scared of the government more than the terrorists!

Norris   December 26th, 2009 - 7:30 pm

This is not that new. Yes it is real. No the chemicals used are not readily available. But any explosive ordinance technician worth his salt knows how to make it. There are literally tens of thousands of people that know how to create this explosive.

Mick   December 26th, 2009 - 8:05 pm

NO, terrorists do not already have this stuff. If they did, then we’d be seeing lots and lots of planes falling out of the sky. It’s not that difficult to get on a plane with a ball point pen in your shirt pocket, and then light it in the lavatory. If terrorists had this stuff, we would be seeing it used everywhere…NUMBSKULLS!

L K   December 26th, 2009 - 8:16 pm

An obvious fake ;)

Ric Locke   December 26th, 2009 - 9:41 pm

Annie and sympathizers — I’m deeply sorry, but the genie does not go back in the bottle, and pulling the covers over your head makes the bogeyman go away only because he was imaginary in the first place.

You cannot become safe by eliminating the scary stuff. You can’t eliminate it, for one thing — once knowledge is acquired it can’t be unlearned, once something has been invented it can’t be uninvented; time only goes in one direction. For another thing, we live in an industrial civilization just full of scary stuff, and a lot of it is the stuff that keeps you warm in winter and a roof over your head and food on the table. One of the most dangerous explosives around is also what farmers put in the ground to grow enough food to make it as cheap as it is. The stuff in the tanker truck you cut off on the Interstate goes in the water supply to keep you from getting sick, but it will kill you dead and take everybody in sight with you if it gets loose. And if you eliminated all that, went back to living in tribes in the forest, there would be lions and tigers and bears to deal with, because you threw away all the scary stuff — some of which is to deal with lions and tigers and bears.

You aren’t safe. You can’t be made safe. You can be reasonably secure if you know what’s going on and take precautions, but trusting other people to make you safe is the most dangerous thing of all. When you need help in the next ten seconds, the police are minutes away — and the police have lots of scary stuff, and are just as dangerous as anybody else in the right circumstances.

Regards,
Ric

Terry   December 26th, 2009 - 10:26 pm

LOL! Sure big threat to OPPRESSIVE governments like Israel and their puppet the US. Stop the illegal practices of Israel and Zionism and this threat nearly vanishes.

LAH   December 27th, 2009 - 12:27 am

Anyone know what the name of the song is? Can’t get it out of my head.

Kini   December 27th, 2009 - 3:32 am

A poster asks why show this video, what’s the point, it’s irresponsible.

Actually, what is irresponsible, is political correctness. Would be terrorist already have this, and other videos showing how to create and detonate explosives.

If you want to fly on a safe airline, then I would suggest flying El Al.

The government, TSA and other security agencies need to stop thinking within the box and start looking at what is working elsewhere. I could care less if travelers get offended by security questions and procedures. You can’t get offended when you are dead.

How this guy got through secondary screening shows a huge hole in the system, unless he had help.

annie   December 27th, 2009 - 5:17 am

My criticism was not to “pull the covers over (my) head” or to deny that this info is accessible elsewhere online. This is irresponsible because SOME INDIVIDUALS who may not have known how easy it is to make a bomb find out here. This video can serve as a catalyst to find out what those ingredients are. It certainly made me curious and I have nothing to do with violence whatsoever.

Of course ppl can find this on their own. But lots of bad ppl are lazy and stupid. Bombmaking might not occur to some. Some may have thought it was a much more difficult or involved process. There will be a number of them who would not search without an impetus. Now they have that impetus, thx to Breitbart.

I say, let them search without any help. Let them have those “searches” recorded, or those email or cel phone exchanges. Let them leave some tracks. Do not AID THEM.

This vid gives every creep a jump start. and I mean EVERY creep, not just would=be terrorists.

Wanna do something constructive? Teach them how to react to situations like the Delta one. Teach them to defend themselves. Teach ppl how to be good witnesses. DON’T teach the would-be terrorists!

Hard Right   December 27th, 2009 - 5:33 am

Saw this years ago and it was outed as fake!
Terry, drop dead you delusional, bigoted inbred.

ChuckyCheese1   December 27th, 2009 - 8:31 am

Not to state the obvious, but there is less security in more populated places than an airplane. If a terrorist can get on a plane to come to this country, he can obviously get off that plane, buy a book of matches and burn down half of California, or load up a van with cans of gasoline and blow it up in crowded area. Moreover, he can pretty much just walk over our border with some cash, steal a van, gas, etc. Seems to me that we need to protect our borders more, and screen Muslims visiting our country better. That’s the only way to prevent terrorism in the U.S. … that, or just ban all Muslims from living and visiting here. Their religion teaches them to take over the world, and to target infidels in the western world. Even the non-violent ones are taught to “jihad” in non-violent ways and to strive to take over the world through more subtle and less aggressive ways until at last Islam reigns in the world. Either way, ALL Muslims are obligated to do their part to fight Christians and Jews until the world is subdued under Allah… the violent ones are just easier to pick out.

arie   December 27th, 2009 - 9:22 am

This video is completely FAKE.

There is no explosive in the world where just a small drop can blow up a water melon, no way.
A physical chemist can probably provide the necessary calculations to it up, but just based on what I’ve seen from other explosives do I call this absolute bullshit.
PETN has a vDet (velocity of detonation, or how quick the detonation goes through the explosive) of 8400 m/s. RDX is considered “one of the most powerful and brisant of the military high explosives.” (wiki) and has a vDet of 8750 m/s. In the video they claim that this explosive has a vDet of between 4300 and 6550 m/s, so not as powerful as PETN.
Now look at these video’s of PETN explosions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96kR2pEEuRM

This is 10 GRAMS of PETN, in contrast to the ±50mg (at absolute most) they used on the other video… Ok, the 10g PETN does some damage, but I find it very difficult to believe that a 200x smaller amount of high explosive would instantly ‘vaporize’ a water melon. Especially because the explosive used in this video is less powerful than petn.

Another example, of 4g PETN this time – again, this is ±80 times the amount claimed in the video above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3NPFbqhqXE

Search youtube for ‘petn’ and you’ll find many video’s of people who made the stuff and make a nice bang in the woods. Based on that evidence, I call the video absolute bullshit, and it is circulated out of pure and utter scaremongering.

jbone   December 27th, 2009 - 9:26 am

..and this guy had this sh*t sewed into his underpants…wow…very unamerican.

Chris   December 27th, 2009 - 9:45 am

In 1980 (I was in saudi Arabia) I sat with some US State Dept. types discussing the hostage situation. When asked why we were’nt bombing the sh*t out of the Iranians, this one fellow stated that I didn’t appreciate the delicate geo-political position we were in. That spoke volumes to me and was indicative of the mindset of our country’s leaders, who fretted and fussed impotently as to what they should do. Whatever they did later became an exercise in academics, too little, too late. Weakness and/or timidity in the face of tyranny is suicide. 9-11 should never have happened and the true terrorists are in our midst; they function as public servants.

gnubi   December 27th, 2009 - 10:53 am

Annie, I agree with you. Very irresponsible. I can tell that this explosive is made of cocaine and strawberry syrup. I have the syrup now and am just trying to figure out how to get the cocaine. I hope it works on a pumpkin.

Abu M.   December 27th, 2009 - 11:04 am

Yes, but tell me this, how did Umar get the watermelon in his pants?

ProudMoonbat   December 27th, 2009 - 12:15 pm

Perhaps Mr. Breitbart thinks that terrorists might be useful in helping him and his friends overthrow the president of the United States.

Jan Elvira   December 27th, 2009 - 3:59 pm

I can see that you’re trying to encourage political assassinations and what a disgusting coward you are. Like Bill Maher said after 9/11, at least they had some balls, you are just a fat little impotent weasal. Ick

Mick   December 27th, 2009 - 4:15 pm

Sorry folks, but you’ve been duped. Ain’t no way a drop of anything could vaporize a watermelon. You’ve been suckered by some scare tactician.

Some numbskull saw the newest “Star Trek” movie and used the highly destructive “Red Matter” from the film to come up with the idea of a “red matter” binary explosive, and you idiots bought it, hook, line and sinker!

If this stuff really existed we would be seeing it used everywhere….airlines, shopping malls, train/bus stations…etc. It’s all B.S. !!!

Jimbo2165   December 27th, 2009 - 5:44 pm

Fake????? Not on your life! Does the technology exist? Yes it does! Do the terrorists know about the technology? They sure do! Should we be profiling these sons-a-bitches? You DAAAAAAAMN RIGHT WE SHOULD. send them right back to alah so they can have their 72 virgins.

subjectoftheussa   December 27th, 2009 - 6:26 pm

If I saw it in Die Hard 3 it must be real man, it blew up a whole ship!

Mick   December 27th, 2009 - 8:51 pm

Jimbo2165, you’re ignorant!

joblo   January 2nd, 2010 - 1:00 am

Looks Fake

TMK   January 3rd, 2010 - 10:46 pm

I don’t care what kind of explosive creating instructions are online. That is like saying spoons made Rosie
O’Donnell fat. The bottom line is this; if you want to end terrorism on airlines then start racial
profiling. I’d say any Muslim male between the age of 15 and 55 is suspect. Sorry if you don’t like it then
start publically denouncing all terrorist acts in the name of allah. If you don’t then you too are suspect.
If you don’t like that then too bad, I don’t give a damn about your rights. But, to put ordinary American
citizens through the embarrassing act of removing their shoes and emptying all of their pockets to fly is
just plain idiotic and only a stupid, ignorant, liberal would disagree. Get rid of liberal ideas first and
then the rest of society would probably work itself out through what really works. The world is governed
by the agressive use of force. You may not like it libs, but it is what it is.

jm   January 4th, 2010 - 2:11 pm

It’s fake. By the way, to reinforce what Frank Pinelander says (“Pinelander” being a reference to the fictional country of Pineland, where Special Forces students do their final exam in Q-Course), this is fake. The 18C (or “Eighteen – Charlie” ) he’s refers to is a Special Forces Engineering Sergent, someone who specializes in demolitions.

If there was an explosive that powerful, US commercial planes would already be falling out of the sky and every mall and monument in the US would be under siege. That’s not to diminish the terrorist threat, but rather to say if this existed and these guys had it, they sure wouldn’t be waiting to use it.

Double check everything folks. The internet is full of hoaxes, and it wastes a lot of good people’s time to debunk these rumors. It takes the focus off the real fight.

Abercrombe451   January 7th, 2010 - 5:47 pm

Pfft, that’s such old school.

I’ve been making Red Loc-Tite and Powdered Sugar bombs since I was 12!

Bob   January 13th, 2010 - 1:07 pm

This video is a fake. No chemical explosive, binary or otherwise, is powerful enough that a small charge like that would do anything more than scratch the melon.

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Scott Smith   April 18th, 2010 - 10:23 pm

What we have here boys and girls is a video made by a couple of wingnuts that watched too many MacGyver TV shows or James Bond movies. Now they think they’re going to get their minute of fame by scaring the pants off everyone that watches this bogus hoax video.

As an explosives expert, I can tell you conclusively that there is absolutely NO explosive that powerful; especially that you detonate with a cannon fuse ! These kiddies touched off a black powder mortar under the melon and THAT is was caused its destruction. (You DID notice the pipe it was sitting on, didn’t you ? ? ? )

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