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Sorry to say but I believe after a certain age there should be yearly tests to make sure older folks can still manage a vehicle.

I have seen senior citizens who take 5 minutes to get out of a chair so what makes anyone think they have the muscle control and reflexes to maintain control of 3-4 thousand pound hunk of metal?! Especially in situations where quick reflexes is what is needed?

Typical geriatric driver. He probably drives an old Buick, does 35 MPH in the passing lane while his signal is on even when he’s not turning.

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Why are people this old still allowed to drive? When they reach 60, everyone should have to take a physical driving test. If they don’t have the reflexes or eyesight or ability to turn their head when changing lanes, their keys and license should be forfeit.

My GF’s car got hit by a 90 yr driver – luckily she wasn’t in the car at the time, but the elderly driver was hurt and my GF’s car almost totaled.

Mandatory driving test at certain age would be nice, but kinda tough when the old men writing the laws prolly won’t agree !

“Here We Go Again June 2nd, 2009 – 1:31 pm

Sorry to say but I believe after a certain age there should be yearly tests to make sure older folks can still manage a vehicle. ”

I wish that were enough. My story:

I was in the DMV line waiting to get my license renewed. The applicant at the desk was a senior citizen clearly very old or had a serious infirmity, or both.

He read of the eye chart behind the lady as instructed. He read the top three lines incorrectly as H, E, W, G – and the clerk interrupted him after the those and said…

“Don’t you mean A, F, V, B?”

He said, “Yes” and she renewed his license.

The AARP lobby rules yo!

If you want to mandate testing based on age discrimination we should definitely test based on race along the same guidlines. Lets start with the blacks who simply ignore all traffic laws and the asians who apparently don’t know that traffic laws exist.

And women! All broads I have ever ridden with take 90^ turns at 40 mph, then wonder why their vehicles are always in shambles

I know people in their 90’s that are very safe drivers who have never had an accident. Most are careful and usually will only drive short distances near where they live. The worst drivers I’ve seen (not counting Naples, Italy) are Massachusetts drivers in their 20’s and 30’s They’re rude and totally oblivious to everyone else.

@chris

You sir are a complete moron. This has nothing to do with age discrimination it has to do with being physically able to operate a motor vehicle.

I am sure there are plenty of senior citizens who’s minds are perfectly able to pass the written tests that are supposed to show knowledge of the traffic laws. But mental capacity isn’t the issue here. It’s physical. It’s about muscular control and reaction time.

They don’t let most people with Epilepsy or other seizure related conditions have licenses but I bet those people can read and write and with some study (like most do) can pass the written the test. But it’s not about that is it? So please pull your head out.

We spend millions on a campaign to get drunk drivers off the road, but we turn a blind eye to those who are just as impaired by age. We need to be vigilant about preventing all impaired drivers from being on the highway. I would suggest:

1) Anyone with a handicap sticker should get a complete test, including actual driving, every two years. By requesting a handicap sticker, you have admitted you are not physical up to the condition of a normal person.

2) After sixty, one should be required to perform a complete test, including actual driving, every 4 years. After seventy-two years of age, one should be tested every 2 years. After 80, one should be tested every year. By making people take an actual driving test, the DMV should be able to determine whether one is still competent to drive.

I am 59 years of age now. I do not have the physical capabilities I did at 30. It scares me that someone like a friend of mine who is 66 years of age, is very obese, barely able to walk, has very poor eyesight and has people constanting honking at him, can in Florida have his license renewed at 66 years of age for another 6 years BY MAIL. The DMV only checked his eyes at 60, yet will have no follow-up of any kind till he is 72. That is scary.

White People of any age should be forbade from driving. This article bears that out quite clearly.

I think with more and more people living longer, there is a greater need to set an age limit on getting a drivers license. I can’t give you a specific age, it would probably have to be determined by statistics that show around what age driving skills significantly diminish, but there has to be something done here. How can you hit the gas instead of the break? You can’t have people that are that are in that kind of physical/mental condition operating a vehicle.

It has nothing to do with age, race, sexual orientation, handicap (mental or otherwise).

Just because people are aging is no reason to require ’special’ tests.

If the bureaucracy involved would simply follow their rules situations such as this would be reduced. Accidents will still happen.

Everyone knows the motor vehicles agencies are a joke. The test are a joke, both written and behind the wheel.

It breaks my heart to hear stories like this. We will all (hopefully) grow to a wonderful old age and to see ones capacities reduced is a sad thing.

Appreciate the older ones around you – your grandfather, father… cherish them.

Maybe you can be the one to help them out so they aren’t put in this situation.

Thank you!
Abby

Everyone who drives a car knows there are just two types of drivers:

1. That slow as hell jerk that I can’t wait to pass!

2. That crazy sumbitch that just passed me!

With the new Oslamamobiles nobody will get hurt as the car and driver would have disintegrated before impact, leaving no evidence whatsoever!

@Russ & @ Chris

Those comments were so freakin funny I about spit beer through my nose

Here We Go is a moron if you dont think there is a slight bit of truth in their sarcasm

Probably a liberal too. Hopefully he gets put away for the rest of his life. I guess this is Obama’s America.

I live in FL. We should have more stricter rules on aging and loss of driving reflexes, but we do not. The AARP and other lobbyists have seen fit to allow people to drive even though they are not physically able, despite the possible consequenecs. My only hope is grandma or grandpa has a son or daughter that cares enough about them to stop them before someones is killed or injured!!!

I was in reverse, and I think I hit something…someone maybe…a pedestrian.

No, no, I’m sure I hit someone, becasue I felt the back wheels go over them…

I kept going

How long before the crooked attorneys try to file yet another frivolous lawsuit against Walmart over this?

Walmart gets many frivolous lawsuits because of its “Deep Pockets”. A tempting target for lawyers who can successfully tell lies and plunder some of the loot.

Here We Go Again-your incorrect about epilepsy and driving. Each state has different rules.I have epilepsy and I am allowed to drive

No one blamed Bush….now thats a first!!!!!

As a Registered Nurse, I would recommend to the families and lawyers that they request copies of medical records of the driver, and if the driver is on Aricept or Namenda, you would be looking a a driver with Alzheimer’s and one who definitely should not be behind the wheel of a car. A wreck of this type indicates a fairly serious lapse in judgement or cognition and should be investigated. If the couple has children, they need to be castigated for allowing this elderly couple to drive with poor skills. I know that children don’t want to take away the freedom of their parents, but since the DMV and the liberal politicians won’t do it, someone has to.

I administer cognitive testings on neurologic patients. It is apparent to me that as we age we lose some of our ability to judge distance, visual perspective, and spatial surroundings. I think every state should test this one area because what better gauge of driver awareness are these areas? This is an age issue…but not agism. Just because your a “safe” driver in your immediate area on short distances…doesn’t mean you should be driving!

AbuBakerSmith June 2nd, 2009 – 3:43 pm

White People of any age should be forbade from driving. This article bears that out quite clearly.

I agree.. it should be the blacks job to chauffeur whites around..

“Going to the store Miss Daisy?”

sounds like 2 episodes of South Park in one…

“Is this Bakersfeild Avenue? Where’s the Country Kitchen Buffet?”

I firmly believe that we should adopt the system from the movie Logan’s Run. All people reaching the age of 30 should report to mass disintigration centers to be terminated. This way everyone is happy. “Will Mr. Obama please report to the DC Unit immediately. Your turn has arrived.”

I remember when we (the family) took away my grandmother’s liscense and car. She got on the floor and threw a tantrum, arms waving, yelling, like a 4 year old. Then she couldn’t get back up off the floor and needed help to stand. Clearly she didn’t have the muscle control to control a car, if she couldn’t even stand up. I do think there needs to mandatory driving test at a certain age. I don’t feel bad, I feel like we protected the other drivers on the road. There is no difference from requiring a test at 16 to deem you can handle the responsibility, then when you are 70. Otherwise, are we discriminating the 16 year olds? I think not. I would like to see the givernment provide more ways for the elderly to get around, public transportation doesn’t go everywhere (rural areas). I wouldn’t mind my taxes going towards that, if it meant some incapable drivers were off the roads. They will always be out there, but every little bit helps.

I am offended by the criticism of older drivers. These comments are politically motivated because the driver was the Republican Party’s next presidential candidate.

You are all wrong. The driver was a liberal who just could not take WalMart any longer and decided to punish them its shoppers.

Ok, as an older driver, even I agree that a road test every year or other year starting at 70 years old.
However, statistics show drivers 16-20 cause most accidents.

The old shoe was texting on top of being old!

That’s clearly George Bush’s fault.

The driver was looking for a handycap spot?

That’s racist.

Was it a white, Jewish or Christian male who listens to Bob Seager? Oh, that’s why!!!!! If it were a female Latina there would have been NO accident.

Just saying BYE to America with my post here. Watching here go down the Islamic/Stoneage tubes.
Me rambling really has nothing to do with old drivers who should not be driving.

Of course older people should be allowed to drive. The same rules apply to them that do to everyone, if they get a ticket, if they have an accident, they lose points off their license.
If they fail an eye test they should be restricted, maybe to the town in which they live, maybe to day time driving.
Once in a while there are episodes like this but honestly, senior citizens are the safest drivers around if you look at the BIG PICTURE, statistics, and the number of times they return drunk drivers to the road too easily, there are lots of groups–before senior citizens–that should have their licenses taken away ‘to be on the safe side’.
Teenage boys come instantly to mind.

I BLAME BUSH!!!

Yes, one accident is a sudden crisis about aged drivers! Like Chris said, there are more dangerous drivers.

“White People of any age should be forbade from driving. This article bears that out quite clearly.”

AbuBaker, run along now. Let the grown ups talk.

If only they had been wearing their ‘Three Wolf Moon’ T-Shirts.

Scary stuff. I just turned thirty, my dad is sixty. Requiring mandatory tests every two years after sixty is ricockulous. 65, 70, 72, 74, etc. would be a better solution. I remember five of six years ago, riding with my grandmother (very protective of driving her car). She parallel parked in front of the county assessor’s office by reversing until the car wouldn’t move, pulling forward until wouldn’t go any where, then reversing again and settling into the spot.

WITH people standing there open mouthed and watching.

Yes, it was cars stopping the movement of her own.

Yes, she got out and went on her way oblivious to anything out of the ordinary.

Scary stuff. I also love it when I talk to her on the phone and she tells me she doesn’t even recognize the people honking at her anymore (she thinks its friends). YIKES!

However, as a grandson I have NO place to remove her keys. That’s up to her children.

Although age has to do a lot for many people but not for all.
At 80 years of age I have replaced both eyes with crystalens* and have 20/15 eye sight.Running every other day 10 miles and I am leaving behind plenty youngsters.Still go on the roof and clean my gutters and shovel snow(I live in Midwest).Having said all that I still believe all elderly should be tested for their fitness.

Every pilot has to take either an annual or a biannual competency check, why don’t we do the same with our old folks?

I’m 60 and am more than willing to taking another test, perhaps one every five years until I’m 70 then every other year until I’m 80 and then annually. After I’m 90 I should be restricted to driving a motorcycle only.

I think mandatory driving test should be given yearly to drivers 70+. It has nothing to do with age discrimination. It has to do with the fact that the older you get, people lose their ability to react to situations. I would not trust my 82 year old mother-in-law to drive my kids. She only drives during the day and to places she is familiar with. If she needs to go out of town, she gets someone else to drive.

A dear friend of mine was in a car accident where she broadsided an elderly woman who made an illegal left hand turn in front of her. The elderly woman was killed. My friend has to live with this for the rest of her life, even though it was not her fault. This elderly lady had no business driving. She had been sited for reckless driving just 3 months prior to the accident.

Teenagers are reckless too, but their reaction time while driving is much sharper than an 80 year old. The DMV needs to make driving tests mandatory for the elderly. It is the safe and responsible thing to do.

Oh, and the number of teenagers who die in a car crash FAR outweigh the number of elderly folks who plow into wal marts. Sooo, that being said, Teenagers do not have a great reaction time, in fact they have the tendency to OVER CORRECT and thus killing themselves and whomever else is with them.

I have a problem with this. If we start mandating yearly tests for elderly who’s to say the govt won’t try to force people to start taking test to see if they are eligible for being parents?………………….wait… no that’s an AMAZING IDEA!

I suppose all of you will be willing to visit shut-ins who have had their cars taken away and no transportation or family to get them out and about for groceries and doctor visits? Right.

The list of people who should not drive is very long. Teenagers. They crash a lot statistically. Women in their 30s-50s who drive SUVs. They tend to be idiots and oblivians. Men in their 20s. Too much testosterone. Drunk drivers. Angry drivers. Cellphone drivers. Out-of-towners. Somehow they all manage to stay on the road despite all of their bad habits. Old people accidents are rare in comparison. They tend to go slow and stay to familiar routes like the store for food or the doctors.

As a senior citizen was driving down the freeway, his car phone rang.
Answering, he heard his wife’s voice urgently warning him,
“Herman, I just heard on the news that there’s a car going the wrong way
on Interstate 77. Please be careful!”
“Heck,” said Herman, “It’s not just one car. It’s hundreds of them!”

I think the old boy needs a refresher course on how to be a Walmart Greeter.

Obama supporters scramble as new GM Obama mobile goes out of control.

Since the new Obama mobile was created with liberal ideals the brakes do not work as expected. They work like a liberal thinks, there are not Black or White solutions (Stop or go) there are only gray. Therefore the brakes do not actually stop the car.

We can thank that peace loving Muslim our President BHO!

law sucks. old people with poor eye sight should not be driving. have eyes check. and etc. wake up DMV.

sex offenders the LAW is very weak. but law for old ,keep on driving until u kill someone.

HELLO

Here We Go Again

NO; you are a moron…ever driven in an urban area?

The last time afro-americans obeyed a traffic control device; walking or driving; Jim Crow laws were still in effect…

My grandparents used to drive as a team. My grandma was blind as a bat… my grandpa could see fine, but had had his legs amputated due to diabetes… So, she drove, and he told her what to do. They did, however, drive very rarely, having access to a shuttle to take them to the store, and lived in a very small town (as if it’s any easier to run folks down in the city versus a town of 3,000…) Certainly, no one in my family was comfortable with the arrangement, though.

And, knock off this nonsense about blacks driving. I live in a very large city with a high black population, and from experience, I know this to be false. I’ve also been hit by a lot of folks in minor fender-benders (had one yesterday), and seen all sorts of bad driving. Usually, the worst drivers are middle aged people with fancy cars, they can afford to drive bad, and have a disproportionate sense of worth of their time. Hence, they drive like maniacs. They’re also usually talking very actively into their bluetooth.

Get the old folks off the road.

My 83 y/o mom thinks she can still drive safely. She can’t.

When my dad realized in is 70s that he was no longer the skilled driver he used to be, he sold his car and turned in his license.

I’m in my late 50s and some automatic reflexes are now given over to thought and decisions. Not good.

My father was killed when a 85 year old man “nodded off” and crossed the yellow line on a curve. The man did not even lose his licence.
My grandfather lives in zephyer hills Flordia which is a city devoted to retirees. It is a very scary place to drive someone should do a study there.
The big problem is that there is no mass transportation system in most towns. Without a licence people can not go to the doctor, shop for food, go to chuch, or have a social life. I do wish the turn of events of my life on anyone. Something must be done.

I live in Virginia and have written the State several letters about my Grandfather who turned 87 in March. When he got last License renewed all they checked was his vision and renewed to 2012. I have seen him drive on sidewalks and on the median that is in my neighborhood. He can’t even park straight in 3 car driveway. My Grandmother will not even ride with him anymore because she says he scares her to death. I understand that he feels he will lose his freedom when he stops driving but I feel bad for the drivers who are on the road when he gets behind the wheel. I hope that the States figure out that they need to test elderly, just see if it is still safe for them to drive. I know that not all elderly have problems but when they are reported 9 times, that the state should be held responsible if something happens and they did nothing to prevent it.

JR in Orlando, you are right in some of what you say, but you are also very wrong on other points. You are wrong when you say that just because a person has handicapped tags they are admitting that they probably can’t drive right. I am sixty-three and have handicapped tags because of spinal stenosis. That infirmity does not keep me from driving in a safe and satisfactory way. I do agree that after certain ages, people should be retested. As a matter of fact, some younger people should be given test to determine if they are mentally mature enough to drive.

My mother just turned 85 years old and before she quit driving at all about two years ago she did not drive at night. She was driving herself to a doctors appointment when she ran through two red lights in a row hitting the gas instead of the brake and it scared her so bad she quit driving herself that day. She still has a valid drivers license but refuses to drive feeling that she is a danger to herself and others. Fortunately except for her being scared and probably those she flew by at the red lights no one was hurt and no property was damaged.

Police and other “first responders” will agree that “gas pedal syndrome” is a very common problem for older drivers. As a paramedic I saw it many times. These folks hit the wrong pedal and freeze up, accelerating and unable to switch to the brake. In California a few years ago a man in his late 70s killed 11 people in a street “flea market” when this happened. This is not a problem of muscle strength, flexibility or coordination, but has to do with perception and brain function. Of course, older drivers fear losing their independence, but everyone over 60 should get a “driving check-up” just like going to the doctor. If you have an elderly relative or friend who is having problems driving, do that person and everyone else a favor and see that this person gets the check-up. Most of us acquire some bad driving habits over the years. The fact that younger drivers often drive unsafely does not excuse older people from responsibility for knowingly endangering others.

Tony from upthread in is better shape than I am and I am only 43! I am as blind as a bat, and might could run half a block w/o falling out. I used to have a knee-jerk response to this and say that there should be an age requirement for licenses. If you look at how many accidents are caused by young ppl vs old ppl, then I would think that it should be based on more than age. Perhaps more rigorous testing? Or re-testing? Hell, sometimes ppl just make mistakes.

Someone jokingly said no one blamed Bush for this (ha ha). Well I will blame him just to piss that person off.
Remember Bush and Cheney are not good people. They dodn’t help anyone except thier rich friends acomplish anything and history will remember them as the most corrupt leaders this country has ever had. If you listen to Rush please off yourself.

My 85 year old father-in-law got his licensed renewed automatically in Texas (he was up north where he lives in the summer but he’s a Texas resident)
No eye test, no new picture, just a letter saying, RENEWED.

He’d been dead for four months.

What you never find out is that these old folks often drive with TWO FEET. Right foot on the gas and left on the brake. Very common. Reflexes get bad and they get ‘em mixed up. They do get re-tested and it scares me when they are slowing down and the engine is reeving, especially in reverse! Ugh!

This is another case that provesthat driving is not an ‘right’. And that just as there are minmum age restrictions for obtaining a drivers license, so should there be an maximum age limit. I don’t care if it’s a 20-something ‘buzz driving’ or an 70-plus driver who’s impaired due to prescribed medications or is simply unfit to drive due to physical or mental limitations.

This driver should be cited for reckless driving AND assault with a vehicle (if such a thing exists).

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