Tony Blair Kept Quiet About Christian Faith to Avoid Being Called ‘A Nutter’

"You talk about it in our system and, frankly, people do think you're a nutter".

December 2, 2007 at 4:37 pm - BBC News
Dateline: London, England
Lyn Price   December 2nd, 2007 - 4:57 pm

I am proud to be an American where there is less phobia about Christianity. Our country was founded on religious rebellion(the Pilgrims, not the Puritans) from England. They wanted to worship as they believed they should, and England was famous for imprisonment IF you were not a member of the “state” religion. Maybe that is what has caused England so much trouble; forcing one to worship a specific way and with a particular belief. I do love England–you have been brave to stand with us and we have stood with you also through many wars, etc. It is sad to see such a decline in Christian spirituality–maybe that has caused a lot of the societal ills–God knows we have them too, not to be boastful, but there is an awful lot of witchcraft…

Cindy   December 2nd, 2007 - 5:18 pm

Anyone who doubts that there are veritable enclaves of faith-hating bigots need only go to Berkeley California and stay there for a few days. Not only will you see nary a Christmas tree or decoration, but at worst you will be condescendingly spoken to or nearly spat at if you try to assemble a tree or raise an American flag there. That is the coldest, most hypocritical and bigoted place I have ever visited in my life, and yet they actually still consider themselves to be intellectual and open-minded! For people who constantly mouth the word “judgmental” as a knee-jerk response to anyone who dares to believe in a higher power (other than the power of illicit drugs), they certainly know how to win the “judgmental” game in spades by not giving any person of faith free speech or a chance to be judged on anything other than the fact that they have a faith! It is not your father’s Berkeley from the ’60s anymore, but everyone should visit there at least once to see what miserable angst-ridden people look like after they have removed every vestige of everything but gratuitous shock and protest from their sad lives!

Lonewolf   December 2nd, 2007 - 9:18 pm

Cindy very well said!!! I am well aquainted with Berkeley Ca. and the confused souls who live there. Burn the Bible in public and it is considered free speech. Burn the Koran and it is looked upon as a Hate crime.

Don   December 2nd, 2007 - 10:58 pm

I love reading the comments from bible-thumpers, it’s a great laugh and very refreshing!

Cindy, I really enoyed your “veritable enclaves of faith-hating bigots” line; do you keep your thesaurus handy just for times like this? Virtually all Christians are bigots by definition, you’ve found the One True Path, and everyone else is going to burn for all eternity.

The Bible is not held in the same regard by Christians as the Koran is to Muslims. I’ve seen devote Christians simply throw a worn out Bible in the trash, but I’ve never heard of the Koran being disposed of in that manner. We’ve been desensitized to Bible burning for a very long time now, it’s egotistical to compare it with someone burning the Koran today.

I’m Agnostic, by the way. I just wanted to share so that the following insults can truly reflect my opinions.

Alexander   December 3rd, 2007 - 12:48 am

Don,
Nothing reveals a lack of well-reasoned opinion better than an ad hominem attack. Well, maybe utterly unfounded statements (e.g., “Virtually all Christians are bigots by definition”).

If you’re going to criticize Christian theology, try taking the time to learn who thinks “everyone else is going to burn for all eternity” and who takes a different position.

The fact that you are an “Agnostic” [sic] is irrelevant–it is your lack of self-awareness that is bothersome. What is a bigot but someone who makes sweeping generalizations without having even a modicum of understanding of the topic?

James   December 3rd, 2007 - 1:32 am

“Agnostic” (snicker). So many people claim to be “agnostic” these days because it’s easier to have no beliefs at all than to allow yourself to have them and have to fight for respect and understanding from those who believe differently.

These smug people falsely think they are throwing a curve-ball to the ‘establishment’ by having no beliefs to criticize.

Rather than saying “oh, I’m ‘agnostic’”, maybe they should say “I’m immature and fairly blissfully ignorant – and I prefer it that way”

Shane   December 3rd, 2007 - 1:37 am

The United States Of America the last Christian nation.Come you Atheist bring it on I’m ready!Cold day in Hell before you take over this country.Lets get ready to RUMBLE!

Jason   December 3rd, 2007 - 4:44 am

My respect for Tony Blair just shot up several notches, knowing that his Christian faith was such an integral part of his public service.

I have no doubt that history will look back on him very kindly, despite the myopic hostility towards him by many present-day Brits.

Don   December 3rd, 2007 - 7:48 am

Alex I’m a preachers son, grew up in the church. I’ve read the Bible numerous times. I think by anyones standards I’ve had enough experience with the Christian religion to have a well-founded opinion on it.

Agnostics are not Atheists. An Atheist can’t prove to me god doesn’t exist, just as a Christian or Muslim can’t prove to me god does exist. Prove to me your god is real and I’ll gladly join in. I’m not ignorant, I simply refuse to be a hypocrite.

Alexander   December 3rd, 2007 - 11:29 am

Don,
Your experience as a preacher’s may qualify you to speak about your particular denomination–though this is like saying Sen. Clinton is experienced in foreign policy because she lived in the White House–but it does not qualify you to speak on any others. Please leave eschatological theory to the grown ups.

Lyn Price   December 3rd, 2007 - 5:36 pm

Well stated, Alexander…

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