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Democrats got what they wanted from you, your vote. Did you really think they would follow through with the bull crap they feed you for your vote? The democrats do this everytime and you folks keep falling for it.
The Code Pinkers are nothing but a bunch of self-centered malcontents. They apparently don’t have enough to do. I hope our government can come up with a program for these people so that when they don’t have enough to do, they should be forced to clean up our nation’s roadsides.
Wahhhhh, we felt betrayed, wahhhh but we will continue to vote them back in over and over again wahhhh
Well, well, well…after contorting herself to try and please these far left idiots, Hillary has nothing to show for it. I give far lefters one thing: they pay attention. Mainstream Dems still believe she and Bill live together, and that she was against the war before she was against it.
Thank God for Breitbart–they get the facts to your screen so you can at least have something to draw upon.
Now you kow why this 30 yr. career cop put down the gun and picked up his musical instruments–my CD is Blaming America First–and they do! Take a listen (‘Hillaryous’ track #5) @
Just get off my lawn!
I feel betrayed by the codepink traitors every time they spew their liberal anti-American pacifist nonsense.
Of course, virtually all democrats are the same.
What did you expect putting a woman as speaker? Really.
There was no option but failure. Same thing with backing a woman or minority for president. Women and blacks just do not have the mental ability to lead. It will just not work – period. Some of you, who are really too dumb to vote in the first place, will disagree. But if you find yourself not in total agreement – then you are an idiot. You have your proof – go kill yourself for America’s sake!!
The only way to save America is to vote Ron Paul. Period. Anything else and you will have what you have now or worse because love him or hate him (and I am the latter) Bush believes in where he is going. Every other candidate is trying to guess what you want to hear. SICKENING!!
And I love women and minorities. But not running my country. This election is too important!!
Code Pink feels betrayed? Well what about all the soldiers who thought they were fighting for their country after 9/11 but got dupped into fighting some illegal and immoral oil war in Iraq?
Ron “cut and run ” Paul is nearly as retarded as 007’s entire post.
Stapler must be a code pink myrmidon too.
SoCalPatriot come on man at least Ron Paul still believes in the US Constitution…gee imagine that. Someone who actually wants the country to be run by the very document that uh….it IS supposed to be run by.
But then again I bet your the type that has no problem giving away bits and pieces of your constitutional rights. I bet you are the type who feels “hey man if you ain’t got nothing to hide then what’s the problem?”
More Ron “cut and run” Paul whackjob conspiracy. This isn’t about me, kid, it’s about Ron “cut and run” Paul being weak on the most important issue of our time, security.
He’s a whackjob and so are his fringe supporters. He has zero chance (thank God) of winning the primary because he’s weak and wrong. He’s a bottom tier candidate with bottom tier “blame America” views. Anyone Republican running would be better than Ron “cut and run” Paul.
Good luck with your delusion…
Wow…I am startled at the range of comments.
1st as a reasonably educated, father of 3 & grandfather of 2, Christian Conservative, who has actively been involved with State and some Fed laws as it directly relates to my State’s and the US Constitutions (State Law Enforcement) for 2 decades… I say this:
Dr Ron Paul is not the perfect man for the Presidency. However, we MUST get him elected if we have any hope of averting the financial crisis that is steam-rolling toward us, as well as truly preserving our liberty and our Country.
I would love to see Dr Ron Paul and Allen Keys on the 08 ticket.
Code stupid!
women should focus on sexually pleasing men.
He’d be great as Secretary of State but not as President or even Secretary of Defense. He’s got the right idea with smaller government but he’s retarded when it comes to defense and that’s enough to make him the bottom tier candidate he is.
Ron “cut and run” Paul is a joke and rightfully so…
SoCal Pat…
Just to clear up a point:
Congress has the power to declare war. It does not have the Constitutional authority to pass a resolution authorizing the President to “use force” if necessary.
Before the war, Ron Paul urged Congress to make an up or down vote on DECLARING WAR and was ignored. No debate, nothing… NOW we have lots of debate and second guessing done by the same Dems who voted for the (I remind you UNCONSTITUTIONAL) Resolution and plenty of Republicans caught in the learch trying to back their president in a time of war and strife.
Ron Paul’s VERY CLEAR POSITION: “If you are going to war, you DECLARE IT, WIN IT and COME HOME as quickly as possible.” We had a few days of war or intence battle and a whole lot of violent police work.
The last time the US Congress declared war was Dec 8th 1941. How many battles have we fought since then and how many have we done so without the declaration of war from our OWN CONGRESS but rather with a UN RESOLUTION?
I had a part in electing my congressman and he is accoutable (at least a little bit accountable) to me and my family… what is the UN’s accoutablility to you or me?
Trying to have more light than heat in this conversation. Sorry if I have failed. Be Blessed
WyoWill:
“The last time the US Congress declared war was Dec 8th 1941.”
My father and many uncles fought in that war. I’m a disabled vet and a grandfather too.
“How many battles have we fought since then and how many have we done so without the declaration of war from our OWN CONGRESS but rather with a UN RESOLUTION?”
How many retards have tried to use that excuse to mask pacifist cowardice?
“I had a part in electing my congressman and he is accoutable (at least a little bit accountable) to me and my family… what is the UN’s accoutablility to you or me?”
I’m not pro-UN, I’m anti-Ron “cut and run” Paul.
Hey SoCal
You suck – your state sucks – your mama sucks. I bet you were all for ebonics and amnesty for illegals. Take the kill yourself advise or just wait for a black or mexican to do it for you.
007:
You should take your own advice, the world would be better without you and your kind.
SoCal
You probably have a black husband, sorry life partner, you have to support. Why dont you get back to your laundry and let the grown folks talk.
007 – You should run for President!!
I really don’t care what inbred, racist/sexist/homophobic, redneck, hillbilly, banjo playing morons say about me. Is that all you have? When a POS like that attacks me, it just proves how retarded they are and how right I am about them.
Next?
Dear SoCal Pat… First of all, I do not share 007’s view at all. 007, please stop. You and I have no idea what SoCal and those like him have done for you and our country. If you have a beef with anyone, it would be with those who may have sent them somewhere, but not him.
SoCal,…Thank you for your service and I truly mean that. I can only ask you to trust me when I thank you and your family for your service to this country… But that only bolsters my point.
The country was unified in a declaration of war in 1941… since then we have allowed HARMFUL DECENT to take place by asking the finest people in our country to go fight and often with painful results. War is ugly and sometimes necessary. But Please, if it is indeed necessary, why do we not follow our Constitution and declair war? Why not follow the Founders’ advise and take a vote of those elected to represent us in an up or down vote? I refuse to accept the lable of pacifist and I am no coward. How does following the Constitution make me so in your eyes?
If you are not pro-UN, are you Pro Constitution? Or are you so angry with Dr Paul for pointing this out that you choose not to agree with him on any point?
Dr Ron Paul is a man of service and integrity. His consistancy and devotion to the US Constitution is unmatched by any of the GOP on the stage with the possible exception of Ambassador Keys.
During his entire time in Congress he has never wavered in his performance of his duties.
He has never taken a dime from lobbists, refuses to take the pension offered by the Govt for his 10 terms as Congressman. Never voted for a tax increase, never voted for an unbalanced budget, never taken a tax payer paid junket… Never voted to restrict the 2nd amendment. Can your presidential candidate compare?
He is no ‘joke’ because you don’t agree with his foreign policy. You proclaim yourself a Patriot as does Dr Paul… I’d ask you to look at him with that in mind.
Take Care
I bet Tyrone made you write that… Chuga CHuga …… lova.
SoCal…
You are right about attacks and name calling in lieu of stating facts and sharing of opinions. It tells me that they have nothing to say worth saying… If they did, why not shut you up with truth?
Hang in there… I enjoy legitamate debate.
I am a Marine, as was my father and Grandfather. And unless he died for my country – which me having to read his vomit means he did not. All he is is part of the problem – as are you.
And to help all of you – I am always right. If you do not agree, it is all the proof you will ever need that you are stupid. Period
And you WYoblahblah are an idiot. Allan Keys? Allan Keys?!! And you expect anyone to take you seriously.
Why don’t you two go hold each other and talk about ways to increase welfare.
Re-read my first post and follow directions
WyoWill:
“Dear SoCal Pat… First of all, I do not share 007’s view at all.”
Many Ron “cut and run” Paul supporters do and that’s more proof that he’s a whackjob fringe candidate.
“But Please, if it is indeed necessary, why do we not follow our Constitution and declair war? Why not follow the Founders’ advise and take a vote of those elected to represent us in an up or down vote? I refuse to accept the lable of pacifist and I am no coward. How does following the Constitution make me so in your eyes?”
Again, just an excuse anti-war pacifists use to be against war. The only people claiming illegality due to the lack of a formal declaration of war are fringe nutjobs. Since I was in the Army, I may be a bit biased, I have great appreciation and support for my brothers and sisters in the military too but we don’t have to formally declare war before battles can be fought. If you want to argue semantics many of the “wars” since WWII could be called “conflicts” but I’m too old to argue semantics.
“If you are not pro-UN, are you Pro Constitution?”
When I joined the Army, I swore an oath to defend the constitution and the USA. I love my country.
“Or are you so angry with Dr Paul for pointing this out that you choose not to agree with him on any point?”
Nonsequiter. The things that I agree with Ron “cut and run” Paul don’t make up for his many failings.
“Dr Ron Paul is a man of service and integrity. His consistancy and devotion to the US Constitution is unmatched by any of the GOP on the stage with the possible exception of Ambassador Keys.”
Keys is no less of a whackjob. Neither will ever be President, for good reason.
“During his entire time in Congress he has never wavered in his performance of his duties.”
Blaming America for 9/11 and his retarded “cut and run” foreign policy is not the “duty” of an American Congressman, imo. Again the bad outweighs any good there could be, like 007 and his ilk.
“He is no ‘joke’ because you don’t agree with his foreign policy. You proclaim yourself a Patriot as does Dr Paul… I’d ask you to look at him with that in mind.”
Please do not insult millions of patriots by including Ron “cut and run” Paul. I’m an America loving patriot, Ron “cut and run” Paul is a delusional bottom tier whackjob fringe candidate who’s running with no chance of winning even a primary. He’s not even a Republican, he ran as one after the libertarians wouldn’t even support him.
His whole campaign is a joke.
007,
Wow… Where do you get the slightest impression that welfare is a good idea in my mind? And please tell me, what is the problem as you see it? I am all for personal responsability. I do not think it is the Government’s job or Authority to take care of me or to tell me what I should be doing.
My dad was also a Marine, I cannot claim that honor for myself.
I would have guessed that a Marine would understand Integrity and Honor and the Courage of one’s Convictions.
I know a lot of Marines and they do not all agree with you. Perhaps Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children are not all getting the same training… or you need to be the Commandant. Yes, I am sure of it… 007 and Chesty Puller…
Just kidding Devil Dog.
Saying you know Marines that would disagree with me must mean in addition to being an idiot yourself that you also cannot read well.
A lot of Marines are stupid – really stupid. Dumb as rocks. If a Marine does not agree then you know you are dealing with an idiot – are you writing this down?
I paid daily for their sins and they are part of my dislike of stupid people. So you are proving my point for me. If you had had the balls to go yourself you would be agreeing and telling that other panty waste to STFU. But please do not do anything to yourself until after you have voted for Ron Paul.
The other guy is a prime example of what is wrong with our country. People like him should not have the right to free speech!! Much less a vote. I have read his posts here before and he is of very low intelligence. A disgrace to American’s.
Hopefully some day we will suspend the law and take the necessary steps to rid our country of people like him and all the rest. Until then I will wait and prepare my children for the “big ugly” – you know it’s coming. They know it’s coming.
Ron Paul is the only choice. I cannot believe that Code Pink is not flying Ron Paul banners. He wants what they want but they want a black or a woman and that will never work. They do not have the genetic make-up or intelligence to lead.
See what I mean about delusional? 
SoCal – Thats the best you got?! Love that California education!! HAHAHA Looser
007 – Love it!! I am a Marine also and I could not agree with you more. Thank you for saying it!
Now it’s clear that 007 and Capt America are the same stooge. 
007 – I was reading the posts and while I usually do not comment, I feel I must here.
I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU!! GOD BLESS YOU FOR SAYING IT!!
RON PAUL 2008!!!
See how easy it is to make a new name. Now he’s just looking for attention, time to ignore his retarded racist rear. Next time you make up a new name, switch up your posting format kid. Too easy.
So desperate, so funny…
SoCal Patriot – I think the point of you being stupid has been settled. You are. And you call someone who disagrees delusional. I guess stupid people can’t see they are.
007 – Calm down. I am sure you are not always right. And I am not stupid for saying it.
Capt America – I have read your posts and don’t you normally keep to race issues?
Wyo WiII – At least you are trying to be civil.
I do believe that Code Pink and their platform is essential for America. Their cause is just and though a lot of you disagree it is part of our country and our political process. As for Ron Paul I haven’t the slightest idea who he is for him to be being discussed under this topic.
note: I live in Jacksonville NC and I do agree some Marines are stupid (but very hot!!)
Again, same person…too easy.
And I am delusional? You really are an idiot
007, I am so sorry for not agreeing with you. I am an idiot and so was my mom and dad.
HAHAHAHA – Is that what your talking about?
Hillarious!!
You prove, yet again, that you *are* delusional. I know my IQ, you know nothing. You’re the clown posting racist and other ignorant drivel and now that you’ve used 4 names (so far) I’m guessing you’re just one of those “tards” that posts stupid stuff just to get attention. I doubt you’re a Marine, you might not really be a racist, sexist, homopobic, ignorant dolt that supports Ron “cut and run” Paul but you’re certainly deluded. Honest? No, Deluded? Yes, you are.
Either way, if you really a racist POS, then you’re scum, if you’re just looking for attention, same result.
Code Pink is disgusting and Ron “cut and run” Paul still has zero chance no matter how deluded any one is.
I’m done with you now, make up all the new names and flame away, kid, your posts say much more about you than me. I don’t even care if you pretend to be me like you pretend to be other people, I know my posts and so do others. I don’t need internet validation like you do kid. You busted yourself with your own stupidity. Go figure.
Good luck with that…
And another thing. It does not matter that I prefer my own sex. Or an occational barn animal or two. It is our right. And I was joking, I agree totally with code pink and was just joking about Ron Paul. But I will vote for him only if Hillary or Barak is not a candidate. Nancy Pelosky is the best speaker we have ever had!!! 
Awesome!!
OK all…
007,… Still unsure of a few of your statements, but as a stupid person I guess it is reasonable to assume I would have many such difficuties.
I am a State Trooper and even the stupid people I arrest have rights… Every bit as many as the smart, reasonable and dedicated Patriots that I have even had to take into custody.
I have had to secure the rights of murderers and drug dealers and other unsavory types… not because they earned it, but because they too deserve equal protection under the law.
If I took it upon myself to determine who was or was not worthy of certain rights, that would be nothing short of tyranny. We live in a Republic which means the rule of law outweighs my personal opinions or feelings on an issue.
If not for this system, we would eventually find ourselves subject to the whims of an Eliteist Ruling Class that imposes it’s own will and wishes upon the opressed masses… Over taxed, under represented, pacified and powerless.
Borders need to be closed? No, silly peasant, you do not understand the complexity of the issue.
Taxes are too high? No… no, you child. Don’t you realize we could not afford our pensions, medical plan and all the perks if we let you keep all of what you earned. Plus you are all too stupid to take care of yourselves… we will take your money and provide for you.
Not to mention other forms of the Jedi-Mind-&%$@.
“Everything is Fine” “… everything is fine…”
“The economy is strong” “… the economy is strong…”
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN! I AM THE GREAT AND POWERFUL OZ!!!
I will vote for Ron Paul. And I continue to educate my self.
YOU DONT OWN THE NAMES HERE GRAMPA!!!1! I CAN BE U IF I WANT!!!!!!!!1!!!!
HAHAHAHA!!
Well said SoCal. I have a confession to make. I’m actually a transgender, semi-retarded woman who suffers from type A narcissism and delusions of intelligence.
I only come on here to try and get some sort of human contact. I know I said I’m an ex-marine, but I’m not. I’m just a big fat Shim.
I do support Ron Paul though.
Wow, this 007 lady is pretty hilarious. You go girl! Don’t let these men keep you down. The Marines need more women just like you!
WyoWill:
“We live in a Republic which means the rule of law outweighs my personal opinions or feelings on an issue.”
Indeed.
“Not to mention other forms of the Jedi-Mind-&%$@”
OK, step *away* from the DVD box set. Let me try my jedi mind trick: The sky is not falling, the conspiracy theory is silly.
“Borders need to be closed?
Taxes are too high?”
“I will vote for Ron Paul.”
I’d never tell anyone how to vote, it’s yours. If you vote for Ron “cut and run” Paul in the primary, it’s your vote to throw away but the question is, what happens the next day, when he’s not the winner?
Who do you vote for then, based on tax/border reality, not a Ron “blame America/cut and run” Paul fantasy? How do you think Hillary/Edwards/Obama would America? What kind of SCOTUS justices do you think might get appointed if democrats won?
“Democrats are the only reason to vote Republican.” — Thomas Sowell
Too much
socal you really proved his point this is funnier than tv wyowill you have good points and should not get mixed up with these two
SoCal, apologies if you already said it, but who’s your horse in the race at the moment?
Checkmate…
Hillary – Unless Obama get nominated. I think he and Oprah would make be perfect to run our country. Not Ron “cut and run” Paul
Balsac T. Bagher:
“SoCal, apologies if you already said it, but who’s your horse in the race at the moment?”
Undecided Republican. I’ve ruled out RP, obviously, and McCain so far. The rest have pros and cons. I like Huckabee and Thompson more than Rudy or Romney, so far. I just wonder who will screw up least/most before the election.
Well the primaries are fast approaching homie.
Huckabee is a preacher man masquerading as a leader. I dunno about the rest of you, but I’ve about had my fill of religion’s influence on government. Yeah yeah, I get that the country was founded on Christian principles… enough already with the dogma. Besides… President Huckabee? That aint a name for the leader of the free world.
Who’s Thompson? Is he running for president or something?
Buncha idiots on both sides of the aisle if you ask me. All the brilliant minds who could actually lead our country are in the private sector making serious cheese.
Start stockpiling your gats and ammo folks. Tough times a’comin’.
I’ve obviously made a mistake trying to have a genuine exchange of ideas in hopes of actually accomplishing something good. But since I’ve gone this far… it is time for a “Truth Surge”
The Republican party has been overrun by Neo-cons and RINOs, simply because sheep like me could be counted on to vote against the “horrible Liberals” and for the lesser of two evils. The 06 elections should be telling the GOP that those days are over.
I happily and foolishly voted for Bush in 2000 (not that there was a better choice in Gore) and I held my nose in ‘04… again, against Kerry, not so much for Bush. I will no longer do so. I think Hillary would be horrible for this country. But if Rudy is the GOP Nom., I will stay home and drink heavily. The only thing worse that another Clinton/Bush in the White House is a continued watering down of conservative values that is then labled REPBULICAN. I will not compromise my values again, even if it were to mean Hillary gets the election. THAT IS THE JOKE. The lesser of two evils is still evil.
Ref., Jedi Mind… I hate the Star Wars stuff… that is a term we (my agency) has borrowed to apply to certain people. It is valid and applies here.
9.3 trillion in debt and it grows by a million a minute. Devalued dollar, countries are switching to the Euro as their perferred currency. China hold 1.46 trillion in our debt and we borrow 3 billion a day to maintain this mess. Our ever increasing entitlements at a rate that makes it impossible (I do mean IMPOSSIBLE) for us to afford… by 2040 they will consume our entire budget. A Congress that spends your dollars in order to secure their re-election without concern of fiscal responsability. Those who dare to state “We need to follow the Constitution” are labled Fringe and out of touch. Everything is fine… just fine. Go shopping.
These are not theories. How you want to interperate these things is up to you.
Peace… May everyone have a Blessed Christmas.
WyoWill:
“I will not compromise my values again, even if it were to mean Hillary gets the election. THAT IS THE JOKE. The lesser of two evils is still evil.”
Like I said, I’d never tell anyone how to vote, staying at home beats voting for hillary but it’s not much different, if she wins. That’s how bill got elected, twice, Americans staying home. If you think that hillary and Rudy are the same you need help. Rudy would be better for America than hillary/obama/edwards and you should know it. Maybe not a vastly better but obviously better, in important ways. I think it’s going to be either Huckabee or Romney but there’s still many weeks to go.
Def won’t be Huckabee. Its gonna be Rudy.
I fully agree with WyoWill on the state of the union. If Ron Paul just had a better grasp on the enemy we face, he’d be the clear choice.
One thing tho WyoWill… your reference to “go shopping”… You’re obviously dismissing that as an idiotic statement made by GWB. In fact it has proven to be precisely what the economy needed in the immediate aftermath of 9/11. Had we not all gone shopping we’d be worse off than we are know. Ask any half smart economist you know. They’ll tell you the same thing.
BTB…you are quite correct in your statement however. I do not mean to be sarcastic in my views… unfortunately it is one of my best character traits… a sad statement indeed.
GO shopping has indeed kept us afloat and avoided an immediate down turn in the economy. My ref to the comment as a whole… everything is fine… just fine.
Had GWB and the Rep majority cut federal spending along with cutting our taxes and telling us to go shopping, I would have no problem. i thought he was just telling the people to go shopping, not telling Congress to do so as well.
My apologies
Code Pink is a perfect example of what happens if PMS is left unchecked or not treated by a qualified physician.
Balsac T. Bagher:
It’s definitely *not* going to be Ron “cut and run” Paul but it *could* be Huckabee.
CNN POLL: SOUTH CAROLINA
Huckabee 24%
Thompson 17%
Giuliani 16%
Romney 16%
McCain 13%
Paul 11%
YMMV…
Well, I hope you are wrong about the likely winner and the ‘also ran’s’… I take some comfort knowing that polls mean little, even at this late stage, at least the ones that are this tight and with (I believe) a 6% margin of error.
that being said, it doesn’t look great for RP, but STAND BY… he is getting noticed and all next week you will be hearing again about the Dec 16th haul he made in 24 hrs… lots of noise about this one being much bigger than the Nov 5th “Money bomb” that made such a splash. this is a strange year indeed.
WyoWill:
Indeed, I said it was still early enough for anyone to blow it but some already have. He has zero chance, in all realty, for good reason. Even money can’t help him.
http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/florida/election_2008_florida_republican_primary
“Election 2008: Florida GOP Primary
Mike Huckabee 27%
Mitt Romney 23%
Rudy Giuliani 19%
Fred Thompson 9%
John McCain 6%
Ron Paul 4%
Some other candidate 2%”
SoCal,
You may indeed be correct, but that is not a good thing. I’d say that Mitt is probably the best option for running the current system as good as it could be run…
The problem is this system is broken. It is what got us to the point we are at. If you are heading down the wrong road, I don’t know that it helps to get lost really efficiently or effectively.
We need to change our direction. It seems obvious to me there are more people who disagree than understand my concern.
Take care.
Says the Ron “cut and run” Paul supporter. I say it’s a GREAT thing when a traitor like him gets put in his place. I’m OK with Romney, if he stops the neg attack ads.
There’s always somebody that thinks their way is better. Usually, it’s the losers. I think it shows the system works to keep out the nutjob fringe candidates.
Yes, we need to stop tolerating whackjob conspiracy theorists. There’s no need to take them seriously, just to be PC.
SoCal,
You have won. Congrats. This was only a test of your allegiance to the true neo-con philosophy.
We were concerned that you may be weakening your resolve when confronted with facts and reasoning that are easily confirmed with a little effort, but you overcame this but doing just what we have always asked you to do…
Simply label opposing views as “wackjob” or “conspiratorial”… Reject any impulse to consider or check assertions made by any opposing view…and continue chanting our mantra “Cut and Run” “Traitors” “Sean Hannity is a Great American”. We will continue to provide you with all the thought and reasoning you will need. By all means continue to refuse to actually require anything of any politician who professes to be a conservative. All that matters is that we continue to rely on Republicans (or reasonable facsimiles thereof) to take care of us. WELL DONE.
You will continue to get more of what already exists. Debt (9.3 Trillion and growing at a rate of over 1 million a minute) A falling dollar (the USD has lost 78% of its value to the Canadian Dollar since 2002, to name but one example) More entitlements we cannot possibly afford and a foreign policy that does not make us safer and puts us further into unrecoverable debt. It is critical that we confront this argument as traitorous and repeat the phrase “Cut and Run” until the annoying truth spew-er goes away.
Yep, sounds conspiratorial to me. You are wise to ignore anyone who would waste your time with these facts. By all means just keep doing what you’ve always done and vote for ‘leaders’ who will continue to promise better ways to take care of you… saving you from the uncomfortable requirement to actually take care of yourself.
POWER TO THE SHEEPEOPLE. Live long and Flounder.
It’s still not about me. I’m not the Ron “cut and run” paul supporter.
Bitter much?
Right. Keep telling yourself that and you will be fine. “SoCal is not the problem… SoCal is NOT the problem… It’s RonPaul who is nuts… always bringing up the damn Constitution! Who DOES THAT?!?!? What a wack job!”
Don’t forget to breath and think happy thoughts. I think Fox and Friends is on,… you won’t want to miss that.
Look, you POS hypocrite, don’t sit there and whine about names/labels because the nutjob you want elected is a traitor and a fool, when you do the same thing. Why is it bad for me to tell the truth about Ron “cut and run” Paul? Why is it OK for you to use names and labels like “neocon” and “sheepeople” and it’s bad for me? Why are people that aren’t as deluded as you sheeple because they’re smart enough to not vote for a traitor, like “Ron “blame America” Paul? You’re as worthless as he is.
Good luck with your mental midget fantasy, retard….
A simple review of this thread reveals the following:
I have roughly 13 posts so far, SoCal has roughly 25. A quick count (and I could have miscounted) shows that SoCal has used the following insults:
Traitor(s): 4 times
Coward or Cowardice: once
Leveled the charge of Anti-American: once
” “: Pacifist: 3 times
Retard, Retarded, fool etc: 9 times
Nutjob or Wackjob: 8 times
Conspiracy charge: twice
Fringe: 4
Joke: 3
Delusional: 3
general insults: a min of 16
and referred to a 10 term Congressman, Physician, Strict Constitutionalist who continues to point out where our policy and actions as a country differ from the advise of the Founding Fathers and the US Constitution as Ron “Cut and Run” Paul 16 times.
SoCal did actually list facts that I could check out on two occasions and they proved to be accurate. He referred to an oath he took to the constitution once… (I also took an oath to protect the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic.) The rest of his posts were opinions, which are well and good if they were about events… but his opinions dealt mainly with the above insults. Not much constructive there.
I do encourage SoCal to state the Truth and Facts. I do not understand his last accusation. I welcome TRUTH and FACTS… he gave me 2 such things in 25 posts. The rest were things that I took him at his word (his service to out country, the oath he took to protect the constitution.) or they were insults or misinformed accusations.
I have been charged with being as negative and such as SoCal…
I attempted to be rational and reasonable in my effort to share my concerns about our country and my support for Dr Paul. I stated I wished to create more light than heat in this discussion. I will admit I failed.
But I did list facts that can be checked out with ease by anyone able to negotiate the web well enough to find this post. A total of 30 references were made listing facts about the financial crisis, national debt, rate of increasing debt, Constitutional Authority and Responsibility of Congress, listing historical events and dates, Listed and defended Dr Paul’s stated positions (go check them out) etc… I also thanked SoCal and his Father and uncles for their service to the country and I sincerely mean it.
Also included were several of my personal rants consisting of sarcasm and opinion, mixed with the above references. I will admit that I may be wrong in my labels of Neo-cons (Neo- Conservatives)and RINOS (Republican In Name Only)and I will defer to SoCal and others to actually define those terms. I may have wrongly attributed those actions of SoCal as those of a Neo-Con or a RINO. As far at the “Sheep” reference, if you look, I refer to myself as one in both 2000 and 2004.
I will defend my right to identify my own misguided behavior and reasoning as well as those who share or shared the same views, ideas and misconceptions. My last two rants that aggravated SoCal so much were the pot calling the kettle black. I will be the pot or the kettle, you can decide which… If that shoe pinches a little too much for comfort, spend some time and check your own ideas.
Other than that, I will rest on Jan’s opinion on Dec 13th @ 1:59 AM and take BTB’s view (well half of it anyway;-) on his Dec 13th post also. I know this mess between SoCal and I has taken over this open exchange of ideas. I apologize to all.
Take care everyone. Have a Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year.
WyoWill:
“I have roughly 13 posts so far, SoCal has roughly 25.”
I know you’re desperate to make this about me, retard, but you’re the whiner complaining about name calling while doing it yourself. The number of posts mean nothing AND some of the post under my name were from that otehr mental midget Ron “Blame America” Paul supporter that though he was clever. You’re a loser, just like Ron “cut and run” Paul.
The FACT of the matter is you’re supporting a loser because birds of a feather stick together.
The rest of your idiocy I didn’t even bother to read, you CAN’T make this about me, boy. Grow up, punk.
Perfect.
I’ve been TRYING to make this about issues!!! You do not seem willing to give any facts or even opinions about anything other than your opinion about the intelligence of people who support a given position and/or candidate. PLEASE give me reasons for your opinions on topics other than your personal opinion of me. I think that is a reasonable request, but as yet I have not seen evidence that you are capable of fulfilling such a request… or is it that you have no interest in it?
25 vs 13 posts were only to set up facts, not to imply you are not allowed to post 25 or 52 times for that matter. Post away…
I will plead guilty to supporting Ron Paul but modesty and common sense prohibits me from comparing myself to Dr Paul. Dr Paul is a very learned Physician and 20 year US Congressman. He has studied topics dealing with monetary systems, history of nations and their downfall, the US Constitution and Congressional, Presidential and Judicial powers, etc., etc., etc.. I don’t know about you, but I simply do not measure up to that.
>>>”The rest of your idiocy I didn’t even bother to read, you CAN’T make this about me, boy. Grow up, punk”
I do not believe I could POSSIBLY prove my point any better than you just did. Thank you. You may want to read it just to see what I am trying to say… and more precisely what YOU just said.
I am willing to accept the premise that I need to increase my knowledge and awareness of all the issues. I concede the point that I may be wrong. If I refused to consider I may be wrong, I could never learn anything. You may want to think about that yourself… No, I guess not.
Aside from these verbal jabs, my sarcasm and the decidedly negative tone this has taken on, I really do wish you a Wonderful Christmas. Take care.
WyoWill’s new name:
“I’ve been TRYING to make this about issues!!! You do not seem willing to give any facts or even opinions about anything other than your opinion about the intelligence of people who support a given position and/or candidate.”
You lying, two-faced SOB. You’ve *been* trying to make this about *me* and *my* opinion of *your* candidate. I did give facts. The fact is, he’s a loser, look at the polls. The only support he has is from worthless “people,” like you, who are deluded.
I said he has zero chance: fact.
I said he was a “cut and run” coward: fact.
I said he “blames America” for 9/11: fact.
I said code pink was disgusting (like supporters of Ron “cut and run” Paul): fact.
I said you were a two faced hypocrite for whining and moaning about “name calling” while you do the same thing yourself: fact.
I said that democrats (all of them) are worse than Rudy: fact.
I said 007 and all of the other names he used was an idiot who busted himself by also using my name: fact.
I said racists were scum: fact.
I said even money won’t help Ron “blame America” Paul.
I’m sure there were other facts mixed in with my opinions too but but just this short list shows that you don’t know wtf you’re talking about.
Now your “opinion,” that a traitor would be the perfect president, says much more about your grasp on “facts” than mine. You and 007, two peas in a Ron “cut and run” Paul pod.
“25 vs 13 posts were only to set up facts, not to imply you are not allowed to post 25 or 52 times for that matter. Post away…”
No, you were trying to imply that because I have a lot of posts (like 007 tried) that it means something. I will post when I like, good luck with that.
“I will plead guilty to supporting Ron Paul but modesty and common sense prohibits me from comparing myself to Dr Paul.”
Supporting a scumbag traitor isn’t a crime but maybe it should be. You do have to own it, because you said it, though.
“I do not believe I could POSSIBLY prove my point any better than you just did. Thank you. You may want to read it just to see what I am trying to say… and more precisely what YOU just said.”
I’ve read enough of your crap to see you’ve been trying to make this about me because you’re bitter than your candidate is a loser and I called it like I saw it.
“You may want to think about that yourself… No, I guess not.”
Again, retard, you’ll never make this about me.
Are you 007, you’re not that bright? I’m starting to think that WyoWill (etc) is just another name used by 007.
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
National poll:
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1402
“Republicans:
Rudy: 23% (down from 29%)
Huckabee: 22% (up from 11%)
Romney: 16% (up from 9%)
Thompson: 13% (down from 15%)
mccain: 12% (up from 9%)
ron “cut and run” paul: 4% (down from 5%)
democrats:
hillary: 40% (up from 38%)
obama: 32% (up from 27%)
edwards: 13% (same)
richardson: 3% (same)
biden: 3% (up from 2%)
kucinich: 2% (same)”
It’s not hard to see the real candidates nor the fringe whackjobs either…unless you are a nutjob yourself. Like I said before, “the sky is not falling, the conspiracy theory is silly.”
Hope that helps but I doubt it…
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